Bybees?

Mar 11, 2004 at 10:02 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 23

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I was just over at audiocircle.com reading various threads and was wondering if anyone here knew much about Bybees

http://www.bybeeinside.com/index.asp

There seems to be a bit of an opinion that these things improve a lot of peoples sound systems by quite a significant margin and I wondered if anyone had ever tried them in a headphone amp.

'nother link

http://www.boenicke-audio.ch/bybee.html
 
Mar 12, 2004 at 1:44 AM Post #2 of 23
I tried cryotweaks.com demo kit ( you can find them on Audiocircle too). It consisted on bybee for speakers, bybee power cord, and bybee for digital and analog cables. Noticed biggest improvement with the speaker ones.
Unfortunately did not have a headphone amp to try it on. You may want to ask over at AC forum, post in The Bolder Cable forum, I know several of them use Headphone gear and they have a lot of experience with the Bybee filters
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 6:59 AM Post #3 of 23
I should spent all that money in other upgrades that will offer you more noticeable improvements, at 400 a pair for the RCA adapters, (and you may need a few for all your system), you should be able to get any other upgrade that you will notice and enjoy more, as a better source, a better amp, even better headphones, now if you have R-10 or the Omegas II and a top of the line system and want to squeeze it even more, that is OK...
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 7:40 AM Post #4 of 23
It's more a case of curiosity for me. Sounds a bit like snake oil but what do I know. I'm interested in whether people hear the sonic improvement or not. I personally couldn't afford these even if I wanted them.
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Mar 13, 2004 at 7:43 AM Post #5 of 23
My McCormack MID power supply from Bolder Cable came with ByBee filters inside. On a scope it was a complete flat line. I'm not sure how they work, but they definitely do. I tend to be a very skeptical person, hence scoping the psu.

Trevor
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 8:32 AM Post #7 of 23
Quote:

Originally posted by TrevorNetwork
My McCormack MID power supply from Bolder Cable came with ByBee filters inside. On a scope it was a complete flat line. I'm not sure how they work, but they definitely do. I tend to be a very skeptical person, hence scoping the psu.

Trevor


Did you scope the PSU with the Bybees removed?
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 8:34 AM Post #8 of 23
If anyone would be willing to lend me a Bybee filter, I would be happy to test it and see if I can get some x-ray and CT scans done on it. Needless to say, I'm very curious what exactly is in those things... All pictures would be posted publicly (for the benefit of all) if the owner doesn't mind.
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 3:40 PM Post #9 of 23
This is snake oil of the worst sort.

A couple of years ago when i got a couple to test, and took
them apart, they were fuse like devices filled with crystaline
misch metal (go look it up). Being high impedance they had
low value resistors in parallel, otherwise you would get no
audio thru them whatsoever. And the marketing speak at
the time was they were capable of faster than light transmission
that did the filtering action. Even if they really did transmit
information faster than light the 1 inch length would put
their usable frequency response well into the gigahertz region.

Now the advertising and construction have changed again.
Now its carbon fiber nanotubes that are cryogenically treated.
At least the guy knows the current buzz words.

Next week, who knows.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Kind of a neat gimic. Say the military uses them and then
say its hush hush top secret so you don't have to prove
anything.

Fits right up there with the tice clock.

here is marshall leach's amusing comment on these devices

The Bybee Quantum Purifier eliminates thermal noise created by the excitation of phonons which travel at the speed of sound and are thus out of phase with the signal, shot noise generated by the operation of transistors, and the always present 1/f noise. The Bybee secret is the creation of electrons which travel in pairs at a high velocity and are able to tunnel unimpeded through copper wire, eliminating the phenomena of quantum noise.

here is the old website with the minus one version of the
snake oil

http://www.bybeetech.com/

here is one of my favorites
quote

When subjected to Bybee’s high-temperature near-superconductive material

I know a lot about superconducting devices. I have 10
of them. Big and pain in the butt. A material is either
superconducting at a specific temperature, or it is not.
There is NO such thing as a near-superconductor.
The closest thing anyone could call a high-temperature
superconductor still needs temperatures lower than -50C
to superconduct.
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 4:55 PM Post #11 of 23
You should know that the markup on these things is
still in the 80% category. Which is why the people that
sell them like them so much. Adds directly to the bottom
line.
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 6:55 PM Post #12 of 23
Quote:

Originally posted by kevin gilmore

A couple of years ago when i got a couple to test, and took
them apart, they were fuse like devices filled with crystaline
misch metal (go look it up). Being high impedance they had
low value resistors in parallel, otherwise you would get no
audio thru them whatsoever. And the marketing speak at
the time was they were capable of faster than light transmission
that did the filtering action. Even if they really did transmit
information faster than light the 1 inch length would put
their usable frequency response well into the gigahertz region.


Heheheh...

Anyone wanna DIY?
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http://www.unitednuclear.com/chem.htm
 
Mar 13, 2004 at 8:13 PM Post #14 of 23
Quote:

Originally posted by braillediver
So if I chilled my head to -50C to superconduct my headphones would sound better?


More like 3 or 4 Kelvin; and thats assuming your head is a good conductor of electricity in the first place.
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