[Mr.Radar]

Yes, it is a heatsink & fan. If you want silence then go with the Zalman 7000Cu (or AlCu if you can't afford the Cu) instead. Thermaltake products tend to be on the loud side.

 

[Stephonovich]

Yeah, Tt can be a bit loud, but as I said, it comes with a speed controller. If you turn it all the way down, you don't even notice it. My friend usually runs his at about 1/2 power, and with a case on, it's about as loud as an average CPU fan. If you want to freak people out, though, turn it all the way up...

(-:Stephonovich

 

[Eagle_Driver]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Radar Yes, it is a heatsink & fan. If you want silence then go with the Zalman 7000Cu (or AlCu if you can't afford the Cu) instead. Thermaltake products tend to be on the loud side.

I have that Zalman 7000AlCu HSF unit, on my 2.8C P4. I never bothered to connect the fan controller at all, since it's quieter at full speed than a stock Intel boxed CPU cooler. And it cools significantly better than the stock Intel cooler, as well.

 

[lojay]

I agree, I have the 7000Cu as well. I wanted to run the PC just with the 7000Cu at first, its quiet as a whisper even at full speed, but somehow the PC just needed the 92mm fans as well. The heat just accumulates inside the case coz there aren't enough holes or a large intake area in my ATX case. The 92mm's are noisy as hell.....

 

[GokieKS]

I don't really think much of Thermaltake's HSFs with a few exceptions (actually, I don't think much of ANYTHING by Thermaltake, least of all their cases, but that's another story) - if you're going to do high-end air cooling, Thermalright is the way to go:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...109-114&depa=1

$40 without a fan - gives you more flexibility, as you can choose what kind of fan to use - a low RPM 92mm will give you good cooling at very low noise levels. I have the Zalman CNPS-7000-Cu, and it's a very quiet and capable HSF, but were I to choose a new heatsink for my processor today, I'd definitely go with the SLK948U (well, actually I'd go for watercooling, but...)

~KS

 

[Elec]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shulaw05 i think the Thermalright "SLK900A" Copper Heatsink ($43), Vantec "ThermoFlow" Double Ball Bearing Case fan with Temp, Sensor, Model "TF9225" ($7) and "Arctic Silver 5", 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube ($7.50) should work well. does the paste go right on the chip? does it go on anything else? you think the case has enough ventilation?

I know you're trying to get everything from Newegg, but I wouldn't spend $43 on an SLK900 just so you can get everything together. SVC has it for $19 http://www.svc.com/thslcl.html so even paying more shipping on it by buying from them instead of Newegg will be cheaper. For $43.99 you can get the SP-97 heatpipe heatsink at SVC http://www.svc.com/thsp.html which is Thermalright's current top dog for Athlon XP chips. SVC is a very good company and I've ordered from them a few times. They also have fans and thermal paste if you want to poke around their site. I know it's a pain splitting up your order but Newegg kind of screws you on Thermalright prices and going with SVC (or even somebody else) will probably either save you a few bucks or let you choose a better heatsink.

 

[Shulaw05]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elec I know you're trying to get everything from Newegg, but I wouldn't spend $43 on an SLK900 just so you can get everything together. SVC has it for $19 http://www.svc.com/thslcl.html so even paying more shipping on it by buying from them instead of Newegg will be cheaper.

Thanks Elec. I can get the slk900 and 92x25mm YS-Tech fan for $35 including shipping.

If i ever decide on a case i'll be ready to go...

 

[Eagle_Driver]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lojay I agree, I have the 7000Cu as well. I wanted to run the PC just with the 7000Cu at first, its quiet as a whisper even at full speed, but somehow the PC just needed the 92mm fans as well. The heat just accumulates inside the case coz there aren't enough holes or a large intake area in my ATX case. The 92mm's are noisy as hell.....

Which 92mm case fans are you running? Vantec Tornados?

 

[lojay]

Nah, just 6 cheap fans which sounded quiet at first, but then turned out to be noisy when used together. Some I bought in a rush, some were given to me by friends. I'm thinking of Panaflo's right now.

I'm using 4 of them now, as Hong Kong's VERY hot and humid even indoors. To give you an idea how noisy they are, I could eliminate the air con noise with my e3c's, but still a bit (a tiny bit tho) of the PC fans noise leak thru.

 

[Shulaw05]

Ok, Now i really think i'm good to go. Here is what i'm getting:

Case:
Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model "PAC-T01-E1" ($98 - Newegg)

CD/DVD:
NEC 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive, Model ND-2510A SW BLK, OEM ($79 - Newegg)

Hard Drive:
Seagate 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160023AS, OEM ($93 - Basoncomputers.com)

Keyboard:
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite PS/2 104keys -OEM ($18 - Newegg)

Memory:
Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM ($81 - Newegg)

Motherboard:
ASUS "A7N8X-X" nForce2 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL ($58 - bestbargainpc.com)

Mouse:
Logitech MX300 Optical Mouse USB/ PS/2 -RETAIL ($19 - Newegg)

Power Source:
Thermaltake W0014 Silent Purepower 480W with Black housing - Xaser Edition ATX 2-Fan Power Supply ($55 - Newegg)

Processor:
AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2500+, 266 FSB, 512K Cache - OEM ($88 - Newegg)

Operating System:
XP Professional ($130.75 - dljsystem.com)

Heatsink and Fan:
THERMALRIGHT SLK-900(A) CLIP-ON
92x25mm YS-Tech 66.3CFM/40.0dBA 4-pin Case Fan
(total $35 - SVC)

Artic Silver 5 - ($4 - Hardcorecooling.com)

Video Card:
APOLLO ATI RADEON 9200SE Video Card, 64MB DDR, 64-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9200SE 64" -RETAIL ($42.50 - Newegg)

Sound Card:
Already have a chaintech av-710.

Total Price Aprox. = $850

What do you think? Keep in mind, this computer is for general use...some minimal gaming, lot of digital camera stuff, internet use, burning, downloading, etc.

 

[GokieKS]

The AXP-M 2400+ seems to be a slightly better value than the 2500+ (and some argue that the lower multipler makes FSB overclocking easier, but it's pretty much a toss up). Other than that, looks great.

~KS

 

[Stephonovich]

Looks good to me, Shulaw. Props to your mouse choice; I've always been particular to the MX series. I like the 700 myself, since it's wireless and rechargeable, but it's also about $40 more.

GokieKS, the multiplier is adjustable on the 2500M. It is on all the Mobile chips. I've used my friends before; you can set it down or up quite a bit.

(-:Stephonovich

 

[Shulaw05]

i was comparing the mobile 2400+ to the mobile 2500+...what's the difference? they seem to have identical specs to me...except the 2400+ is $11 cheaper.

 

[Stephonovich]

The 2500+ is apparently about 30MHz faster. Hmm, never even looked at the 2400+... BTW, there's also this, which is a M2400+, but 35 watts. This would conceivably mean less heat output, ergo, better OC'ing. One fellow said he's getting 3200+ speeds out of it, and he's had it up to 2.5GHz. That's the same as the 2500+ was doing.

Choices, choices, choices...

(-:Stephonovich

 

[Elec]

I briefly tried to dig up the difference between the 2400+ and 2500+ mobile chips and was unsuccessful. The FSB is the same and there's not a multiplier stepping small enough to account for the missing 33MHz (2500+ is 11x166 = 1.83GHz, 33MHz is a fifth of 166 but multipliers only go by halves). Could be a Newegg misprint but I dunno. I've heard some people say they prefer the 35W mobiles but nothing definitive. I think it's hard to go wrong no matter which you pick - I have a Barton 2500+ (non-mobile) which was manufactured a year and a few months ago and will go as high as 2.2GHz. I guarantee they've only gotten better since then