Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO // DT 1990 PRO MK II -- Impressions Thread

Oct 29, 2022 at 11:15 AM Post #4,441 of 5,026
One thing I may add, DT 1990 Pro has the same fantastic quality as the HD600 in that sense as when I'm watching a music video the sound no longer comes from the cans but from the screen and I forget I wear cans. The normal "around the head" experience is when not watching anyone perform in front of me. Psychoacoustics. Interesting, but as I said the only other can I clearly get this experience is the HD600.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 11:18 AM Post #4,442 of 5,026
I meant they sound far superior without an EQ; DT 900 Pro X can be driven by a potato and tonality is right straight from the box.

DT1990 Pro on the other hand do have this problematic amount of treble, you don't always have access to a good EQ, and it needs amping.

You could say Usability is superior on DT 900 Pro X, not general sound quality.

DT1990 Pro even with the balanced pads (I haven't tested the Analytical yet) sounds better in all registers except in the amount of treble. Control is better, resolution is better, slam is better etc in short when driven proper it's a better can. It could be I may like them even more with the Analytical pads, I like well controlled bass, I'll come to that. In any case, they have to be toned down in the treble. Not a problem with my digital mixer but may be with other sources.
I understand and I am quite relieved. Analytical pads might increase the treble for your taste.
But I tested the DCA AEON2 intensively, sorry to say that, it was simply more unbearable comparing that treble.
This renders me a bit confused, but 1990s treble seems not to be so much of a problem for me.
 
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Oct 29, 2022 at 11:27 AM Post #4,443 of 5,026
I understand and I am quite relieved. Analytical pads might increase the treble for your taste.
But I tested the DCA AEON2, sorry to say that, it was simply more unbearable comparing that treble.
This renders me a bit confused, but 1990s treble seems not to be so much of a problem for me.

Depends on the type of music of course, but modern metal needs toned down treble on 1990 Pro. Less congested music may fare better, but I've seen the comments on pronounced S-sounds etc so taming the treble may be needed in more cases.
Also depends on more, signal chain, personal hearing and taste, but aside from that I think they sound near perfect when 6-8k is toned down a few dB. 10k is not as critical, it can be left untouched for some extra air.
Bass on the other hand can need more control on explicitly bassy music like modern hip hop/dance. Good I don't fancy that kind of music, but if I did, I might be more desperate to try the analytical pads to gain the extra control.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 11:59 AM Post #4,444 of 5,026
I don't listen much to Jazz, but this one popped up at Tidal, sounds very realistic with the 1990 Pro. Female singer. Excellent tonality and really high res (with tamed 8k)

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Oct 29, 2022 at 1:25 PM Post #4,445 of 5,026
Sure, it comes down to personal preference. I don't listen to jazz, nor do I listen to electronic dance music or much hip-hop. I listened to the first song of that album you proposed. My friends would hit me, if I would call TOOL being metal, I would do the same. Sometimes it is called somewhat disrespectful Nu-Metal.
I temporary have only one test track on tidal you could use to test, it's Kraftwerk's song Sex Objekt. With far more expensive headphones and the same gear I took notice of sibilance.
Eqing seems preferable basically, but at present it is not necessary. Maybe I'm just too old or a acquired a hearing damage.
The extra bass results definitely from this Headphone amplifier.
TL;DR:
The 1990s are bearing a lot of potential. I hope you will keep them!
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 1:27 PM Post #4,446 of 5,026
Another great test passed for the DT 1990 Pro, it handled Björks latest album without rough edges which is endlessly hard. Björk has recorded with almost full dynamics, and notoriously harsh and unsmoothed synth sounds in a brutal unforgiving mix. It's a nightmare to reproduce smooth. The 1990 does a fine job!

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Oct 29, 2022 at 1:34 PM Post #4,447 of 5,026
Sure, it comes down to personal preference. I don't listen to jazz, nor do I listen to electronic dance music or much hip-hop. I listened to the first song of that album you proposed. My friends would hit me, if I would call TOOL being metal, I would do the same. Sometimes it is called somewhat disrespectful Nu-Metal.
I temporary have only one test track on tidal you could use to test, it's Kraftwerk's song Sex Objekt. With far more expensive headphones and the same gear I took notice of sibilance.
Eqing seems preferable basically, but at present it is not necessary. Maybe I'm just too old or a acquired a hearing damage.
The extra bass results definitely from this Headphone amplifier.
TL;DR:
The 1990s are bearing a lot of potential. I hope you will keep them!

At the moment I mostly listens to bands like Lamb of God or Gojira, but yeah speed metal isn't my thing I want the heavy riffs not the fast riffs LoL

I also play myself, sometimes in bands, but I'm no great metal player I mostly play classic hard rock (rhythm/lead guitar). My heritage is progressive rock/hard rock, so no metalhead per se.

Yes, so far, I like the 1990 very much. It performs up to and above expectations!

edit. I listened to the Kraftwerk-track, heavy sch-sounds yes, but it's recorded like that and shouldn't go away complete. It's fine. There are two mixes, original and 2009, I prefer the original. 2009 remix sounds too thick.
 
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Oct 29, 2022 at 2:00 PM Post #4,448 of 5,026
At the moment I mostly listens to bands like Lamb of God or Gojira, but yeah speed metal isn't my thing I want the heavy riffs not the fast riffs LoL

I also play myself, sometimes in bands, but I'm no great metal player I mostly play classic hard rock (rhythm/lead guitar). My heritage is progressive rock/hard rock, so no metalhead per se.

Yes, so far, I like the 1990 very much. It performs up to and above expectations!

edit. I listened to the Kraftwerk-track, heavy sch-sounds yes, but it's recorded like that and shouldn't go away complete. It's fine. There are two mixes, original and 2009, I prefer the original. 2009 remix sounds too thick.
I am quite impressed of Atopos (Björk), especially beginning from 3:13. Requires a lot of Micro dynamics, and your new headphone can deliver this quite good!
Progressive rock is really vital to me, but I never played any instrument. Just listen to that. So respect for playing this.
Listen to a lot skinny puppy and the beginnings of Ministry (late 80s and early 90s albums, but still listen to that very often). Listening to this I learned, how important to micro Dynamics is to me.
Yes, the old track it's really a bit different from the new recorded, even the old song recorded in 198 something on that CD I own is slightly different from that rerecorded stuff.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 2:38 PM Post #4,449 of 5,026
At the moment I mostly listens to bands like Lamb of God or Gojira, but yeah speed metal isn't my thing I want the heavy riffs not the fast riffs LoL

I also play myself, sometimes in bands, but I'm no great metal player I mostly play classic hard rock (rhythm/lead guitar). My heritage is progressive rock/hard rock, so no metalhead per se.

Yes, so far, I like the 1990 very much. It performs up to and above expectations!

edit. I listened to the Kraftwerk-track, heavy sch-sounds yes, but it's recorded like that and shouldn't go away complete. It's fine. There are two mixes, original and 2009, I prefer the original. 2009 remix sounds too thick.
Referring to microdynamics, lcd-xc was recommended to me, but is three times the price of 1990s.
So 1990s it's quite capable of playing all time greats SOAD and the unevitable Roots album from Sepultura.
Sorry for getting a bit of topic, dt1990s owners, but yes, Micro dynamics.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 2:40 PM Post #4,450 of 5,026
This one sound scary good on the DT1990 ....

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Oct 29, 2022 at 4:41 PM Post #4,451 of 5,026
Wrong thread.. :)
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 5:12 PM Post #4,454 of 5,026
What EQ settings di you use?

Nice comments on the albums!

-6dB at 8k parametric hardware EQ(DSP) in my fully digital mixer(Tascam Model 12), seems to do the trick removing fatigue and keep just the enjoyment! :)

Enjoying Chick Corea- Trilogy 2 now, sounds pristine

Yes, RME has good rep, I don't know what DAC-chip is in my digital mixer, but that thing sounds really good on the balanced outputs (to headphone amp and active speakers). Tascam has a reputation for sounding "musical", I believe that, and the background is completely dark since I use balanced outputs.
If I would guess, it uses/used AKM converters because Tascam suddenly made a new hardware revision because of shortage of DAC chips not long after the AKM fire. I have the old revision; I would guess the new one uses CS DAC. Not that it matters really, it's the implementation that matters.
Interesting with the Model 12 is that it's fully digital, there are no analog signal paths inside, creates a few new possibilities for editing/routing the sound compared to a traditional mixer.
 
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Oct 30, 2022 at 5:28 AM Post #4,455 of 5,026
This old album from 1979 also sounds awesome on the DT1990, mastering is untouched on Tidal which is good, full dynamics! The old jazzrock fusion nestors from Japan, Casiopea. Really engaging sound, engaging is the keyword, if the music does not engage its meh

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