best mp3 player ? (regarding SQ only)

[RubenNYC]

+1 for Rio Karma.

 

[antonyfirst]

No one suggesting the Trekstor Vibez? How strange.

 

[gloco]

Based on the dap's I've owned and heard, hands down, the rio karma. Best EQ without a doubt. Second place is the nomad juke box 3, but its huge. The iriver H1xx series are good too, thanks to rockbox. Take a look and see if you can find a rio karma in good shape, it's a wonderful sounding dap.

 

[JLai]

I'm really surprised iMod fanboys haven't chimed in yet.

 

[j24]

zen vison M using lineout. Superb sound amp or not amp

 

[RubenNYC]

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Originally Posted by JLai /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm really surprised iMod fanboys haven't chimed in yet.

I've only demo'd it, don't feel like I can judge it honestly. The fact that it inherited the Karma's EQ definitely earns it big points.

 

[mr_a]

IAudio U3 ... very nice SQ ... all the tweaking u wanna do with the sound
- Preset and Custom EQ
- BBE Effect
- MachBass
- MP3 enhancment
- 3D effect

Overall ... very very nice player out of all the players in terms of SQ I had like Nano 2nd gen, Samsung YP-Z5, Creative Zen V, Zen Micro and Sony NWE-405B.

 

[tman1]

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Originally Posted by RubenNYC /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've only demo'd it, don't feel like I can judge it honestly. The fact that it inherited the Karma's EQ definitely earns it big points.

I assume this was meant to refer to the Vibez, not the iMOD, right?

 

[RubenNYC]

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Originally Posted by tman1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I assume this was meant to refer to the Vibez, not the iMOD, right?

Yeah, I don't know what happened there. Looks like I clicked quote on the wrong post.

I was talking about the Vibez.

 

[jinp6301]

rio karma hands down

i have the toshiba gigabeat s60 and it sounds great. Much better then the ipod and better then the creative vision m (but not as a big diffrence as the ipod)

 

[mr_a]

I was relly close in choosing Karma over IAudio for the SQ. But the fact that they are discontinued and hard to get services (as they are HD based), I had to go with Iaudio. However, Rio Karma as the winner

 

[mr_a]

I was relly close in choosing Karma over IAudio for the SQ. But the fact that they are discontinued and hard to get services (as they are HD based), I had to go with Iaudio. However, Rio Karma carries the title

 

[tman1]

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Originally Posted by jinp6301 /img/forum/go_quote.gif rio karma hands down i have the toshiba gigabeat s60 and it sounds great. Much better then the ipod and better then the creative vision m (but not as a big diffrence as the ipod)

How would you compare the Gigabeat's sound quality with the Karma? I'm hoping to see a comparison between the Zune and the Vibez, so a Gigabeat/Karma comparison should be in the ballpark.

 

[RubenNYC]

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Originally Posted by tman1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif How would you compare the Gigabeat's sound quality with the Karma? I'm hoping to see a comparison between the Zune and the Vibez, so a Gigabeat/Karma comparison should be in the ballpark.

tman, because the underlying hardware is so different, I would not expect the Vibez and Karma to sound the same. What they have most in comon is feature set and the customizable EQ. IMHO, the level of customization of the EQ on both the Vibez and the Karma go a long long long way since you can tune the sound to your liking, much more so than any other player on the market.

As far as a baseline EQ=Off type SQ test, I'm confident Vibez <> Karma.

 

[tman1]

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Originally Posted by RubenNYC /img/forum/go_quote.gif tman, because the underlying hardware is so different, I would not expect the Vibez and Karma to sound the same. What they have most in comon is feature set and the customizable EQ. IMHO, the level of customization of the EQ on both the Vibez and the Karma go a long long long way since you can tune the sound to your liking, much more so than any other player on the market. As far as a baseline EQ=Off type SQ test, I'm confident Vibez <> Karma.

Thanks. Do you mean that you think the SQ would be 'different, but equal'? (IOW, does "Vibez <> Karma" mean you think they would be equal quality, despite thinking they would not sound the same??)

I know I could look this up, but while we're on it - what is the EQ like on the X5 and the Zune? (I think I read that the Zune only had presets, but the X5 was customizeable - if so, how many freq bands, and how 'good' is it? How are the Zune presets?)