Best encoding software for MP3 and Best lossless format(compression)

Aug 7, 2005 at 6:44 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 11

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Hi all, noobie qns again.

Which encoder do you guys think is the best for encoding MP3?

and which lossless format provides the best compression?
 
Aug 7, 2005 at 7:10 AM Post #2 of 11
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Which encoder do you guys think is the best for encoding MP3?


The LAME encoder is generally regarded to be the best. Though for lossy compression I have come to prefer ogg.

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and which lossless format provides the best compression?


FLAC seems to be the most popular over APE, though they are both viable formats. I use FLAC because it's open source(so is ogg). Hope this helps.
-Mag
 
Aug 7, 2005 at 7:59 AM Post #3 of 11
I've downloaded Lame. When ripping MP3, there are quite a number of setting that we can change. Can anyone advise me on the following:

1. Whats the diff between MPEG l, MPEG ll and MPEG ll.5?
2. What is VBR method?
3. What is Out. Samplerate?
4. Whats the diff between Stereo, Joint Stereo and Dual Channel? Which one provides the highest quality?

its like almost asking everything about it... bear with my ignorance pls.
 
Aug 7, 2005 at 8:42 AM Post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by bochup
Is there anyway I can get Winamp to play .ape file?

Tried finding for a plugin to no avail...



Just download the official APE's en/decoder - Monkey's Audio, and then ull know by urself.
 
Aug 7, 2005 at 8:46 AM Post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by bochup
I've downloaded Lame. When ripping MP3, there are quite a number of setting that we can change. Can anyone advise me on the following:

1. Whats the diff between MPEG l, MPEG ll and MPEG ll.5?
2. What is VBR method?
3. What is Out. Samplerate?
4. Whats the diff between Stereo, Joint Stereo and Dual Channel? Which one provides the highest quality?

its like almost asking everything about it... bear with my ignorance pls.



google...

i can answer u the 2 and 3 questions :

2. variable bitrate rate, it changes the bitrate rate according to the complexness of song.

3. 44100 hz 48000hz or others. just use the original samplerate of ur source files
 
Aug 8, 2005 at 12:28 AM Post #8 of 11
1. Whats the diff between MPEG l, MPEG ll and MPEG ll.5?
it defines the how much channel there is. mpeg I is stereo. i guess the other two are multichannel.

2. What is VBR method?
vbr is magic. basicly you tell the compression to write less kilobites for quiet passage of the music and use more kilobites for complex passages. this way it is believe you can get higher sound quality at a specific kbs comparing to CBR compression (constand bit rate) and save more space at the sametime. you choose between two kbs you want the mp3 to varies its size within. the side effect of this is the song will somehow turned out to be a second or two longer than the original song. also it require more processing power than CBR, for computer it means nothing, but with portable devices it could mean a bit less battery life. i like ABR, which is also basicly vbr where the mp3 is concerntrated around one kbs.

3. What is Out. Samplerate?
basicly alow you resample the sampling rate, cd music is 44.1khz. some people like upsampling to higher number because it gives smoother higher or something like that. i rather leave this setting alone to keep it more true to original sound, but the paradox said the music is already compressed anyway. if the music is original recorded and remastered to a higher sampling rate then it will technically sound better than 44.1khz, but you cant upsampling to make it 'sound better', more like changing the soung. there is also 16bit/24bit/32bit. cd is 16bit.


4. Whats the diff between Stereo, Joint Stereo and Dual Channel? Which one provides the highest quality?
okay i dont know what dual channel is. i beleive that stereo give the highest quality. joint stereo is a tecnique where it will no write extra kbs for when the a cetrain sound left and right channel sound similar, and regard them as the same, therefor saving space. there was a discussion thread about this a few days ago.
 
Aug 8, 2005 at 2:33 AM Post #9 of 11
here's what i found while testing multiple lossless codecs

as far as compression
Monkey's Audio ~= OptimFROG > Wavpack > WMA Lossless > FLAC ~= Apple Lossless > Shorten

shorten was the fastest closely followed by ALAC, WMA, and Wavpack... FLAC and Monkey's Audio were about the same... OptimFROG took an hour to encode 56minutes of music to the same size as monkey's audio which took roughly 6 minutes...
 

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