Best Drummer's All Time, Past, Present: Let the Beat's Begin!
Apr 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM Post #31 of 128
I'm surprised, since it's April Fool's day no one said Hop the Bunny!  It came out today APRIL FOOL'S DAY!!!!!!!   
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Apr 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM Post #32 of 128
Here is a jaw dropping solo by the best jazz drummer who ever lived, Papa Jo Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5uROxVUkA4
 
Apr 2, 2011 at 2:02 AM Post #39 of 128


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spyro said:
Neil Peart????
 
I am probably a little older than many on the board but I have been going to Rush concerts since 1976 ("Fly By Night Tour") and have seen them 28 times.  Loved Neil as a rock drummer.  But over the past 10-15 years I have ventured into contemporary jazz.  Generally speaking these guys are far better musicians.  Take a rock musician and put him in a jazz setting and they are pretty uncomfortable but take a jazz musician and put them in a rock setting and they are very comfortable (because that's probably where they started).
 
It's all debatable but I would say Antonio Sanchez is the best drummer on the planet at the moment.  Look him up and you will see why.  Dave Weckl comes to mind as well.  I read an interview with Neil Peart a few years back where he fully acknowledged that jazz drummers were on a whole nother level.
 
If drum solos bore you at least speed up toabout the 4:20 mark.   Fricken' incredible.....
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efERFCN0B_0
 
 
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I personally never objectively state one style or musician is better than the other but I hear a lot about how jazz drumming is more difficult.
 
As a self taught rock drummer playing for two years and recently joined a Jazz Ensemble for about half a year I will definitely say that jazz drumming is simply different, although I did personally find it pretty difficult at first just because it's different. Playing jazz for the first time almost felt the same as when I first learned how to play rock the first time because these two styles are so different when compared to each other. Put a jazz drummer who's never played rock and is not familiar with rock drumming and he won't sound very good until he learns the style. For example playing heel down on the bass drum which is mostly in jazz will make a rock beat sound weak compared to the heel up style of rock drumming.
 
Jazz is more about precision while rock is more about sounding powerful. What is difficult about rock drumming is about sounding powerful without becoming repetitive. Jazz drumming doesn't have much of that issue because more techniques are incorporated in the beginning of learning the style. That doesn't mean it makes it better just different and it is also what makes rock drumming unique and sound different from jazz drumming.
 
Anyway my most favorite and influential drummers include: John Bonham, Buddy Rich, Danny Carey, Abe Cunningham, Josh Freese, and Dave Grohl.
 
This drum cover is proof of Danny Carey's great prowess as a progressive drummer. Polyrhythms in progressive drumming are ridiculous.

 
 
Apr 2, 2011 at 2:07 AM Post #40 of 128


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eee pee said:
Brann Dailor from Mastodon is a pleasure to listen to.
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Brann Dailor has some of the fastest fills that I know of.
 
I'd like to throw in how overrated Travis Barker is. He IS a good drummer, it's just that his fans overhype him and hardly listen to other music or other drummers.
 
 
 
Apr 2, 2011 at 2:10 AM Post #41 of 128
chad smith of red hot chili peppers
 
Apr 2, 2011 at 9:29 AM Post #43 of 128


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bisayaboi said:
I personally never objectively state one style or musician is better than the other but I hear a lot about how jazz drumming is more difficult.
 
As a self taught rock drummer playing for two years and recently joined a Jazz Ensemble for about half a year I will definitely say that jazz drumming is simply different, although I did personally find it pretty difficult at first just because it's different. Playing jazz for the first time almost felt the same as when I first learned how to play rock the first time because these two styles are so different when compared to each other. Put a jazz drummer who's never played rock and is not familiar with rock drumming and he won't sound very good until he learns the style. For example playing heel down on the bass drum which is mostly in jazz will make a rock beat sound weak compared to the heel up style of rock drumming.
 
Jazz is more about precision while rock is more about sounding powerful. What is difficult about rock drumming is about sounding powerful without becoming repetitive. Jazz drumming doesn't have much of that issue because more techniques are incorporated in the beginning of learning the style. That doesn't mean it makes it better just different and it is also what makes rock drumming unique and sound different from jazz drumming.
 
Anyway my most favorite and influential drummers include: John Bonham, Buddy Rich, Danny Carey, Abe Cunningham, Josh Freese, and Dave Grohl.
 
This drum cover is proof of Danny Carey's great prowess as a progressive drummer. Polyrhythms in progressive drumming are ridiculous.

 
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Nicely put, point well taken!
 
 
 
Apr 2, 2011 at 11:34 AM Post #44 of 128


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souprknowva said:
@bisayaboi  im assuming you've seen tool live then? Carrey did a pretty amazing drum solo in the middle of lateralus at the show i saw in St Paul this last summer. it was nuts to say the least
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I haven't. I really want to see Tool live.
 
I will go see A Perfect Circle this summer though!
 
 
 
Apr 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM Post #45 of 128
I'll add 2 great drummers to the list: Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree a.o.), Terry Bozzio
 
Not THE BEST, since that doesn't exist, but I can enjoy those 2 very much. When Gavin plays the Porcupine Tree song 'Anesthetize' live....
 
 
By the way, this is a nice list of names (not my list, but from Rolling Stone):
 

Rolling Stone: 100 Greatest Drummers

Submitted by blindsider on Mon, 01/26/2009 - 12:35  
  1. 1. Neil Peart (Rush)
  2. 2. John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
  3. 3. Ginger Baker (Cream)
  4. 4. Keith Moon (The Who)
  5. 5. Terry Bozzio (Frank Zappa, Jeff Beck)
  6. 6. Bill Bruford (Yes)
  7. 7. Danny Carey (Tool)
  8. 8. Mike Portnoy (Dream Theatre)
  9. 9. Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
  10. 10. Carl Palmer (Emerson, Lake, & Palmer)
  11. 11. Stewart Copeland (The Police)
  12. 12. Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
  13. 13. Steve Gadd (Steely Dan)
  14. 14. Vinnie Colaiuta (Frank Zappa, Sting)
  15. 15. Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews Band)
  16. 16. Tim Alexander (Primus)
  17. 17. Simon Phillips (Toto, Jeff Beck)
  18. 18. Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs, Winger)
  19. 19. Matt Cameron (Soundgarden)
  20. 20. Dennis Chambers (Santana)
  21. 21. Chad Wackerman (Frank Zappa)
  22. 22. Phil Collins (Genesis)
  23. 23. Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
  24. 24. Virgil Donati (Planet X)
  25. 25. Max Weinberg (E Street Band)
  26. 26. Vinnie Paul (Pantera)
  27. 27. Ansley Dunbar (Jeff Beck, Whitesnake)
  28. 28. Mike Shrieve (Santana)
  29. 29. David Garibaldi (Tower of Power)
  30. 30. Steve Smith (Journey)
  31. 31. Josh Freese (A Perfect Circle)
  32. 32. Alex Van Halen (Van Halen)
  33. 33. Billy Cobham (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
  34. 34. Bill Ward (Black Sabbath)
  35. 35. Alan White (Yes)
  36. 36. Carmine Appice (Beck, Bogert & Appice, Vanilla Fudge)
  37. 37. Stanton Moore (Galactic)
  38. 38. Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden)
  39. 39. Scott Rockenfield (Queensryche)
  40. 40. Hal Blaine (Elvis Presley, Beach Boys)
  41. 41. Joey Jordison (Slipknot)
  42. 42. Marco Minnemann (Weirdoz)
  43. 43. Cozy Powell (Rainbow)
  44. 44. Tommy Aldridge (Whitesnake)
  45. 45. Chester Thompson (Santana)
  46. 46. Morgan Agren (Frank Zappa)
  47. 47. Jeff Porcaro (Toto)
  48. 48. Dean Castronovo (Journey)
  49. 49. Mike Giles (King Crimson)
  50. 50. Jeff Campitelli (Joe Satriani)
  51. 51. Nick Mason (Pink Floyd)
  52. 52. Greg Bissonette (Joe Satriani, David Lee Roth)
  53. 53. Ralph Humphrey (Mothers of Invention)
  54. 54. Mike Bordin (Faith No More)
  55. 55. Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
  56. 56. Zak Starkey (The Who)
  57. 57. Jon Theodore (The Mars Volta)
  58. 58. Phil Ehart (Kansas)
  59. 59. Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
  60. 60. Jimmy Chamberlain (Smashing Pumpkins)
  61. 61. Charlie Watts (The Rolling Stones)
  62. 62. Lars Ulrich (Metallica)
  63. 63. Brian Mantia (Primus)
  64. 64. Mike Sus (Possessed)
  65. 65. Jason Rullo (Symphony X)
  66. 66. Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Scream)
  67. 67. Pat Mastelotto (King Crimson)
  68. 68. Mick Fleetwood (Fleetwood Mac)
  69. 69. Raymond Herrera (Fear Factory)
  70. 70. Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
  71. 71. Matt McDonough (Mudvayne)
  72. 72. Scott Travis (Judas Priest)
  73. 73. Jack Irons (Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam)
  74. 74. Roger Taylor (Queen)
  75. 75. Jose Pasillas (Incubus)
  76. 76. Earl Palmer (session man)
  77. 77. BJ Wilson (Procol Harum)
  78. 78. Joey Kramer (Aerosmith)
  79. 79. Gene Holgan (Death)
  80. 80. Danny Seraphine (Chicago)
  81. 81. Igor Cavalera (Sepultura)
  82. 82. Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
  83. 83. Travis Barker (Blink 182)
  84. 84. Taylor Hawkins (Foo Fighters)
  85. 85. Nicholas Barker (Dimmu Borgir)
  86. 86. Paul Bostaph (Slayer)
  87. 87. Chad Smith (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
  88. 88. Brad Wilk (Rage Against The Machine)
  89. 89. Alan Gratzer (REO Speedwagon)
  90. 90. Matt Sorum (Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver)
  91. 91. John Dolmayan (System of a Down)
  92. 92. Chad Sexton (311)
  93. 93. Mark Zonder (Fate's Warning)
  94. 94. Gary Husband (Level 42)
  95. 95. John Densmore (The Doors)
  96. 96. Jon Fishman (Phish)
  97. 97. Al Jackson (MG's)
  98. 98. Jim Gordon (Derek & the Dominos)
  99. 99. Dave Abbruzzese (Pearl Jam)
  100.  100. Sean Kinney (Alice in Chains)


 
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