AngelJD
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I'll probably post this in many forums to get ideas and maximize the help.
I currently own for audio setup and HT, movies, gaming, and music enjoyment:
Two chairs that can be placed in the room and fit in the limited space (own)
Topping T-30 (own)
Cambridge Audio S-30 front speakers (own)
A very good Desktop Computer for gaming/HTPC and music listening with optical and coaxial out and many 2.0 and 3.0 usb available (own)
HDTV 40' Samsung 3d 120hz (own)
The room is a small bedroom on the second floor and I want the best bang for the bucks audio setup yet at the same time I don't want to bother anybody outside of the room or to a near by (about 10 feet from a hallway) bedroom where people will sleep so I hope to minimize the sound leakage as possible. I recently found "Bass Shakers" that work to help feel the bass thus giving a bass booming feel of power that movie theatres and strong High Quality Subwoofers can create yet not go beyond the room itself to bother others. I hope to installed two shakers under the two chairs that myself and my roommate will use to sit and enjoy tv, gaming, movies and music on and the ability to control the rate of rumble and power should we like different settings for whatever the purpose. Thus a high quality rich but low sounding bass subwoofer as to not leak out as much or rumble outside on the room paired with the shakers to give the best of both without bothering anybody else not inside the room. Further very little space for a setup (I'm worried about finding the right subwoofer that will able able to fit inside the stuffed small room and where to put surround speakers (but not rear as I think I found a space saving option for that below) should I have the money and option to).
Option 1: 7.1/7.2 setup
#1 A receiver 7.1/7.2 with a zone 1 and 2 out for subwoofer and controlled and powered shakers idea
#2 2 Aura AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker or other shakers such as Dayton Audio 8 or 16 ohms pair or a buttkicker kit (with two shakers for option of myself and roommate to enjoy) (planed to be installed on the bottom of the two chairs (one for each chair) in either parallel or series wiring with banana plugs (if possible) installed on the wires to easily and constantly remove and store the wires in a draw so they won't be left on the ground and be damaged or tripped over when not in use connected to the chairs)
#3 A subwoofer (unknown size and power and bottom or front shooter)
#4 Cambridge Audio S-30 front speakers (own)
#5 A center speaker from Cambridge Audio to match front speakers
#6 Current cheap no name that I can find HT package speakers my mother owns and doesn't use for side surround or Micca MB42 or Acoustic Research AR 215PS Speakers
#7 For rear speakers I can either find a way to place some small cheap rear speakers such as the the speakers for the side surround speakers idea above or buy Dayton Audio DAEX25 Pair of Sound Exciters and install on the two chairs back portions to serve as an cheap & out of the way and space saving rear speakers to the 7.1 setup plus also with have installed and banana plugs to the wiring (wherever I can to whatever allows it) for same reasons as the shakers.
Option 2: 5.1/5.2/3.1/3.2 setup
#1 A 5.1 or 7.1 or 5.2 or 7.2 receiver
#2 Current Front S-30 speakers
#3 Matching Center speaker from Cambridge Audio
#4 The Dayton Audio DAEX25 Pair of Sound Exciters install on the two chairs back portions to serve as the side surrounds (not certain how effective they might serve)
#5 The shakers installed on the bottom of the chairs.
(If I just go with a 3.1 and shakers idea then I'll still need a 5.1/5.2 or 7.1/7.2 receiver then and downgrade I believe)
Option 3:
2.1 or 2.0 (if a subwoofer can't be placed effectively) plus shakers (possibly no shakers then as well if no bass or cost effective Amp/power/control to be paired with). Plus slightly better Amp and Dac then my current Topping T-30 is providing with a hopeful high quality separate Dac of 24bit depth and 96 or 192 HZ.
Plus as an addition to the above options for individual use and not bother the roommate when he needs to sleep/study/work a High Quality closed over the ears headphones and paired with a good DAC (24 bit/ 94hz or 192hz) and Amp combo for the headphones with very little to no sound leakage. Considering the ASTRO Gaming MixAmp Pro Kit, AKG K 701 or 702 headphones, FiiO E17, and the digital optical wiring and few accessories for such things. First I hope to confirm a plan for above then save up money for the budget for the audio setup options above then for the headphones idea (I can just use my current Sony in ear headphones which I use for travelling in crowded areas such as the subway till then to not bother anybody).
I'm a newbie and while I read and looked into many things to come up with the plans above many things are beyond my grasp or need further explaining and help. Such as I hope to have two shakers and a subwoofer yet while I read how to hook up two shakers using series and parallel wiring (which wiring would best suit my needs the most based on further questions and answers later) I read the shakers will need an amp and use of the sub out. I currently own a Topping T-30 which doesn't have a sub out so I was looking into a powered subwoofer and want to know if there are powered subwoofers that not only give additional amps to my Cambrigde Audio S-30 speakers (I figure 30-40 watts max is fine for the front speakers as the 15 watts the topping T-30 provides for them is just about enough for them to be very load and enjoyable and not bother anybody outside the room) but also help power, properly and fully amp, and control the two shakers I would pick from the many shakers available. This is under the idea of Option 3 with subwoofer to minimize the max cost as I currently don't own a receiver. If I do buy a receiver (looking into the YAMAHA RX-V773WABL selling for $430 and other possible 7.2 receivers for the above options) which will be necessary for option 1 and 2 what recommendations do you all have and cost effective best bang for the bucks and idea setup?
In the end after everything is planed and bought how will the wiring to each part and settings go to get an idea of what to buy and how everything will work in the end?
Thank you in advance to everybody who will post and help with their own ideas and viewpoints.
I currently own for audio setup and HT, movies, gaming, and music enjoyment:
Two chairs that can be placed in the room and fit in the limited space (own)
Topping T-30 (own)
Cambridge Audio S-30 front speakers (own)
A very good Desktop Computer for gaming/HTPC and music listening with optical and coaxial out and many 2.0 and 3.0 usb available (own)
HDTV 40' Samsung 3d 120hz (own)
The room is a small bedroom on the second floor and I want the best bang for the bucks audio setup yet at the same time I don't want to bother anybody outside of the room or to a near by (about 10 feet from a hallway) bedroom where people will sleep so I hope to minimize the sound leakage as possible. I recently found "Bass Shakers" that work to help feel the bass thus giving a bass booming feel of power that movie theatres and strong High Quality Subwoofers can create yet not go beyond the room itself to bother others. I hope to installed two shakers under the two chairs that myself and my roommate will use to sit and enjoy tv, gaming, movies and music on and the ability to control the rate of rumble and power should we like different settings for whatever the purpose. Thus a high quality rich but low sounding bass subwoofer as to not leak out as much or rumble outside on the room paired with the shakers to give the best of both without bothering anybody else not inside the room. Further very little space for a setup (I'm worried about finding the right subwoofer that will able able to fit inside the stuffed small room and where to put surround speakers (but not rear as I think I found a space saving option for that below) should I have the money and option to).
Option 1: 7.1/7.2 setup
#1 A receiver 7.1/7.2 with a zone 1 and 2 out for subwoofer and controlled and powered shakers idea
#2 2 Aura AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker or other shakers such as Dayton Audio 8 or 16 ohms pair or a buttkicker kit (with two shakers for option of myself and roommate to enjoy) (planed to be installed on the bottom of the two chairs (one for each chair) in either parallel or series wiring with banana plugs (if possible) installed on the wires to easily and constantly remove and store the wires in a draw so they won't be left on the ground and be damaged or tripped over when not in use connected to the chairs)
#3 A subwoofer (unknown size and power and bottom or front shooter)
#4 Cambridge Audio S-30 front speakers (own)
#5 A center speaker from Cambridge Audio to match front speakers
#6 Current cheap no name that I can find HT package speakers my mother owns and doesn't use for side surround or Micca MB42 or Acoustic Research AR 215PS Speakers
#7 For rear speakers I can either find a way to place some small cheap rear speakers such as the the speakers for the side surround speakers idea above or buy Dayton Audio DAEX25 Pair of Sound Exciters and install on the two chairs back portions to serve as an cheap & out of the way and space saving rear speakers to the 7.1 setup plus also with have installed and banana plugs to the wiring (wherever I can to whatever allows it) for same reasons as the shakers.
Option 2: 5.1/5.2/3.1/3.2 setup
#1 A 5.1 or 7.1 or 5.2 or 7.2 receiver
#2 Current Front S-30 speakers
#3 Matching Center speaker from Cambridge Audio
#4 The Dayton Audio DAEX25 Pair of Sound Exciters install on the two chairs back portions to serve as the side surrounds (not certain how effective they might serve)
#5 The shakers installed on the bottom of the chairs.
(If I just go with a 3.1 and shakers idea then I'll still need a 5.1/5.2 or 7.1/7.2 receiver then and downgrade I believe)
Option 3:
2.1 or 2.0 (if a subwoofer can't be placed effectively) plus shakers (possibly no shakers then as well if no bass or cost effective Amp/power/control to be paired with). Plus slightly better Amp and Dac then my current Topping T-30 is providing with a hopeful high quality separate Dac of 24bit depth and 96 or 192 HZ.
Plus as an addition to the above options for individual use and not bother the roommate when he needs to sleep/study/work a High Quality closed over the ears headphones and paired with a good DAC (24 bit/ 94hz or 192hz) and Amp combo for the headphones with very little to no sound leakage. Considering the ASTRO Gaming MixAmp Pro Kit, AKG K 701 or 702 headphones, FiiO E17, and the digital optical wiring and few accessories for such things. First I hope to confirm a plan for above then save up money for the budget for the audio setup options above then for the headphones idea (I can just use my current Sony in ear headphones which I use for travelling in crowded areas such as the subway till then to not bother anybody).
I'm a newbie and while I read and looked into many things to come up with the plans above many things are beyond my grasp or need further explaining and help. Such as I hope to have two shakers and a subwoofer yet while I read how to hook up two shakers using series and parallel wiring (which wiring would best suit my needs the most based on further questions and answers later) I read the shakers will need an amp and use of the sub out. I currently own a Topping T-30 which doesn't have a sub out so I was looking into a powered subwoofer and want to know if there are powered subwoofers that not only give additional amps to my Cambrigde Audio S-30 speakers (I figure 30-40 watts max is fine for the front speakers as the 15 watts the topping T-30 provides for them is just about enough for them to be very load and enjoyable and not bother anybody outside the room) but also help power, properly and fully amp, and control the two shakers I would pick from the many shakers available. This is under the idea of Option 3 with subwoofer to minimize the max cost as I currently don't own a receiver. If I do buy a receiver (looking into the YAMAHA RX-V773WABL selling for $430 and other possible 7.2 receivers for the above options) which will be necessary for option 1 and 2 what recommendations do you all have and cost effective best bang for the bucks and idea setup?
In the end after everything is planed and bought how will the wiring to each part and settings go to get an idea of what to buy and how everything will work in the end?
Thank you in advance to everybody who will post and help with their own ideas and viewpoints.