I used to be on eCoustics forum raving about subwoofers, so you know I'm about good quality bass that hits hard. (Had an Alpine Type-X subwoofer) Since I don't drive anymore I'm looking for a headphone to replace a 12. And with all this Beats hate I figured, "gee there really must be better headphones than Beats." So far, wrong. I just tried the bass kings, the 'Ultrasone Pro 900' and even amped up with a Fiio E7 the lows were nowhere near close to the Studio's. Sure the high's and mid's were amazing, but the sub bass came nowhere near close. Unless you want treble putting a hole in your ear while doing so. Now I Iisten to a lot of hard hitting rap like Three 6 Mafia & Bone Thugs 'n Harmony and I'm not just some dumbass from the ghetto. The Beats so far have outperformed the Ultrasone & the ATH-50 I bought. Now I'm looking to sell them and get another pair of Studio's or Pro's. Unless your calling my genre of music retarded there's no way you can hate on Beats. Yeah, I admit the high's and mid's suck. But the bass rules. And, yes, it is ghetto bass but I like it. And it comes the closest to a hard hitting W6. I would compare the 900 to an 8. The ultrasone's were $600, but I paid $320 and now I gotta find a way to get rid of them since ****yy ass DJDeals doesn't return headphones. To the people on here who solely listen to rap and hip hop on here, what can you honestly say outperforms Dre's headphones. Sure, if you listen to Rock, Trance or Techno, or even Drum 'n Bass I can understand why Beats suck. But for those who only listen to hard hitting gangster rap, leave Beats out of the equation, because they rule. Now I'm not trying to post this with a closed mind. But so far others recommendations have steered me in the wrong direction. I agree, I hate mainstream, hype and all that bullsh*t that goes along with misinformation, advertising and marketing. But so far they've been selling good for a reason. And as much as I WANT to listen to you guys on here. I gotta realize that everyone's musical taste buds are different. In the end, if you want bass that are equal to having 15's in the trunk, so far I've found nothing better than Beats. Sorry to say. Don't get me wrong, I hate trends, I hate fashions but if I have to look like a d-bag and rock a B on the side of my cans to hear good bass, than so be-at it. Also, still waiting for my xb500's so maybe there still is hope. But otherwise you guys are WRONG! (You can pick up a pair for $180 in Amazon) Just proof that not every Beats fan is a misinformed idiot with a big wallet.