Bass heavy with crisp sound?

[mzd]

unfortunately you can't tell too much from specs, aside from ohms (power to drive) and sensitivity. max power is alright, but you shouldn't approach those numbers. the frequency range isn't as important because the human ear can only hear between 16~20,000 (average). you can't tell soundstage, level of bass, quality of mids/highs etc from specs. you'd really need to hear them both. or if you can't, get input from people who have.
i have the M50s but haven't heard the Denon's so i can't offer a comparison.

 

[Folex]

I thought frequency <20 meant how much bass you'd feel.

 

[Bradan]

The audio specs are exagerated, and you can usuall hear about 16-20hz, depending on the person. Almost all recordings don't have anything under 30-40hz.

You'd probably be best off with a headphone like AH-D2000, or HD650. They are a really safe bet for new audiophiles in my opinion.

Go to the "my worst purchase ever" thread and look for mentions of these headphones, you won't see any.

 

[Almoxil]

Another vote for the HFI-780s. Bass is awesome, as well as clarity level.

 

[Czilla9000]

Very few people have heard them, but I love my Ultrasone DJ1's (1st generation). Lots of bass and great sound with no amp.

 

[Folex]

Those seem to be the 2 companies I hear alot, ultrasones and Denons. I can say I like the sennheiser sound, well what I've heard, the 212's, 280's and 555's. The only issue I had with the 280's is they are hard to drive. Another factor i really didnt like about the 280's was the weight. How is the weight on the 2000's and 780's. With the 212's is like 6 oz which is extremely light.

 

[Bradan]

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Originally Posted by Folex /img/forum/go_quote.gif Those seem to be the 2 companies I hear alot, ultrasones and Denons. I can say I like the sennheiser sound, well what I've heard, the 212's, 280's and 555's. The only issue I had with the 280's is they are hard to drive. Another factor i really didnt like about the 280's was the weight. How is the weight on the 2000's and 780's. With the 212's is like 6 oz which is extremely light.

10oz for the ultrason, 12oz for the denon. The Denon are regarded as a much more comfortable headphones though.

If you know for sure that you like the Sennheiser's "house" sound, I'd highly, highly suggest either going straight to HD650 or to pick up the Denons. The sound signature is very similar, though the denons lack in mids, and don't roll off highs as much as the Senns.

 

[Folex]

hah there is no doubt the 650's are way out of my price range, $500. As it stood I only wanted to spend $150 which isnt enough for either the 780's or 2000's. The best price I saw on either was $219.

In terms of high ends the only ones I tryied were the Sennheisers. So my like for them really has no comparison. I did try another pair of high end headphones but i forgot the name. Everyone at the store was all about them, but when I tryied them I didn't feel they were really any better then the 280's and were considerably more. I thought they were the 770's but I was pretty sure there was like some fuzzy stuff around the padding of the headphones which the 770's dont seem to have.

 

[ARwCoco]

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Originally Posted by jayeshrc /img/forum/go_quote.gif +1. needs burn in though

what they said ... X2 ...

 

[donz]

I currently have a set of ultrasone proline 650, and I just got a pair of allen and heath xd 53, which apparently are the same as another audio technica set (I think ad700 pro?) but I think that the ultrasone's blow them out of the water in terms of sound stage, base and clarity. I'm still burning them (only 40 hours right now) so I'll edit when I have more info. I also love the huge cups of the ultrasone, as compared to the smaller and thinner pads of the xd-53..
Boo to the dr Dre beats, The guys at futureshop were like these are the best headphones ever, I tried them for 10 mins and honestly they were pretty much crap. I'd get them if they were about $75 just because they look nice. It's hard to describe, the bass is not clean and crisp, and rest of the range is just crap. soundstage of a telephone booth...but they are nice to look at.

 

[Folex]

About the Dre's

You forgot to mention what happens when the batteries run out. You can't use them despite you phsyically plugging them into whatever.

I just got back from boston and on the way I dropped into guitar center. I looked at their selection again and NO Denon 2000's nor HFI 780! I asked them what kind of music store they were running; clerk didnt seem impressed. I was wondering what headphones I had used prior and they were in fact the Dt 770's. When I tryied them out they were directly out of the box and hooked up to an amp. The comfort on the 770's were extremely nice but the sound quality I felt was on par with the 280's despite the 770's costing considerably more.

To those who mentioned the 2000's and hfi 780's how do they compare to the 770's ?

 

[Bradan]

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Originally Posted by Folex /img/forum/go_quote.gif About the Dre's You forgot to mention what happens when the batteries run out. You can't use them despite you phsyically plugging them into whatever. I just got back from boston and on the way I dropped into guitar center. I looked at their selection again and NO Denon 2000's nor HFI 780! I asked them what kind of music store they were running; clerk didnt seem impressed. I was wondering what headphones I had used prior and they were in fact the Dt 770's. When I tryied them out they were directly out of the box and hooked up to an amp. The comfort on the 770's were extremely nice but the sound quality I felt was on par with the 280's despite the 770's costing considerably more. To those who mentioned the 2000's and hfi 780's how do they compare to the 770's ?

The D2000 or 780 are a few teirs above in my opinion.

The beyer 770's aren't most of our top choices, they have allot of bass and sibilance issues, barely any midrange.
You can get them as low as 160$ new at amazon marketplace though.

There are some people who really like them though, though I disagree.

Where do you live exactly? A hi-fi stereo shop would probably be the first place to look.

 

[Folex]

Maine.. haha this place is home to absolutely nothing

Trust me If i could try out these headphones I def would.. I only really have 1 "audiophile" friend and I use " marks " because he think Bose are amazing. I found it funny that my old Sony MDR-V150 were on par with it. I honestly went into listening to his Bose thinkin I was going to be blown away by the sound. I don't know if they were a defect or what but they sounded really meh.

 

[REB]

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Originally Posted by Bradan /img/forum/go_quote.gif The audio specs are exagerated, and you can usuall hear about 16-20hz, depending on the person. Almost all recordings don't have anything under 30-40hz. You'd probably be best off with a headphone like AH-D2000, or HD650. They are a really safe bet for new audiophiles in my opinion. Go to the "my worst purchase ever" thread and look for mentions of these headphones, you won't see any.

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Denon D2000 sounded like crap 2me, glad I sold them and bought K501 instead.

 

[oqvist]

cheapest solution AKG K81DJ... Extremely uncomfortable headphones though but crisper, tighter and cleaner than the DT 770 PROs with great kick and don´t require any amplification.