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I thought it sounded a lot like that "Micky" song from the 80's with all those cheerleaders.
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well, there are, in fact, actual rules that determine whether one song plagiarizes another and is a copyright violation.
however, i'm not sure what the quantitative measure is... something like at least 4 note variations every 16 bars? i made that up, but that's at least the spirit of it.
sounds to me like Lavigne's tune probably varies the melody just enough to squeak by. we'll see though.
however, i'm not sure what the quantitative measure is... something like at least 4 note variations every 16 bars? i made that up, but that's at least the spirit of it.
sounds to me like Lavigne's tune probably varies the melody just enough to squeak by. we'll see though.
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this is perplexing. why would someone in their right mind admit to writing a steaming pile of crap like that?
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Haha, I thought exactly the same thing. Both songs are rather awful.
| Originally Posted by Thelonious Monk /img/forum/go_quote.gif this is perplexing. why would someone in their right mind admit to writing a steaming pile of crap like that?
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Haha, I thought exactly the same thing. Both songs are rather awful.
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At some point you have to be free from prosecution if you steal mindless cr*p like that. Perhaps plead insanity as a defense?
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Problem is, crap makes money. Lots of it. People eat crap for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So people eat other peoples' crap, poop it out as their own and everyone eats it up again. If we can't copyright crap, then we have no chance of cleaning up this $h!*hole.
| Originally Posted by velogreg /img/forum/go_quote.gif At some point you have to be free from prosecution if you steal mindless cr*p like that. Perhaps plead insanity as a defense? |
Problem is, crap makes money. Lots of it. People eat crap for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So people eat other peoples' crap, poop it out as their own and everyone eats it up again. If we can't copyright crap, then we have no chance of cleaning up this $h!*hole.
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Is she claiming she wrote it? Or was there a "ghost writer" a la Ace of Bass and Britney Spears?
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I was under the impression that she wrote all her lyrics. I believe they marketed that "fact" purposely to help her street cred. They're certainly juvenile enough to be believable.
| Originally Posted by Zanth /img/forum/go_quote.gif Is she claiming she wrote it? Or was there a "ghost writer" a la Ace of Bass and Britney Spears? |
I was under the impression that she wrote all her lyrics. I believe they marketed that "fact" purposely to help her street cred. They're certainly juvenile enough to be believable.
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Haha you are funny yet true at the same time
Though sometimes the remake is better than the original one.
I remember a track from DJ Jean, like the first hit he had, ow yeah "The Launch" and it was real bad. The remix of that song however was real cool. Don't remember who remixed it though.
Oh and I wanted to say this a long time....Finally some justice! Rock- singeress my ass
| Originally Posted by GlendaleViper /img/forum/go_quote.gif Problem is, crap makes money. Lots of it. People eat crap for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So people eat other peoples' crap, poop it out as their own and everyone eats it up again. If we can't copyright crap, then we have no chance of cleaning up this $h!*hole. |
Haha you are funny yet true at the same time
Though sometimes the remake is better than the original one.
I remember a track from DJ Jean, like the first hit he had, ow yeah "The Launch" and it was real bad. The remix of that song however was real cool. Don't remember who remixed it though.
Oh and I wanted to say this a long time....Finally some justice! Rock- singeress my ass
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Both songs suck, but I really don't see the similarity beyond what could happen by normal chance.
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Led Zeppelin. Their entire 1st album minus one song, i believe the opening track. well documented. check the latest greatest hits album, you'll see they arent credited for many of the songs from that album. the rest still havent been settled.
| Originally Posted by zotjen /img/forum/go_quote.gif Has anyone else ever ripped off two songs at once? |
Led Zeppelin. Their entire 1st album minus one song, i believe the opening track. well documented. check the latest greatest hits album, you'll see they arent credited for many of the songs from that album. the rest still havent been settled.
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I agree entirely, Most of my friends have the mentality that if it is popular it must be good. It annoys me to no end when most of what I hear sounds exactly the same as all of the other emo/punk or whatever they call it now. Every singer sounds exactally the same and the songs are pretty much indistinguishable. [/rant]
| Originally Posted by GlendaleViper /img/forum/go_quote.gif Problem is, crap makes money. Lots of it. People eat crap for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So people eat other peoples' crap, poop it out as their own and everyone eats it up again. If we can't copyright crap, then we have no chance of cleaning up this $h!*hole. |
I agree entirely, Most of my friends have the mentality that if it is popular it must be good. It annoys me to no end when most of what I hear sounds exactly the same as all of the other emo/punk or whatever they call it now. Every singer sounds exactally the same and the songs are pretty much indistinguishable. [/rant]
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That's debatable. Sure, they took a good bit of melodies from old hapless bluesmen, but they made the sound all their own, hardly covers. And they at least ripped off good material.
| Originally Posted by Pseudonym /img/forum/go_quote.gif Led Zeppelin. Their entire 1st album minus one song, i believe the opening track. well documented. check the latest greatest hits album, you'll see they arent credited for many of the songs from that album. the rest still havent been settled. |
That's debatable. Sure, they took a good bit of melodies from old hapless bluesmen, but they made the sound all their own, hardly covers. And they at least ripped off good material.
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That's horrible reasoning - the "sound" may be all their own but the material isn't theirs.
But that's kind of irrelevant - the things that Led Zeppelin stole were things that just about every blues man "stole" at that time. The better way to phrase it would be that their songwriting ideas were inspired by standard blues licks. The entire blues genre is riddled with this kind of behavior, and has become commonly acceptable. This is part of what makes blues so beautiful; the free flowing exchange of ideas is pretty much boundless.
| Originally Posted by stewgriff /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's debatable. Sure, they took a good bit of melodies from old hapless bluesmen, but they made the sound all their own, hardly covers. And they at least ripped off good material. |
That's horrible reasoning - the "sound" may be all their own but the material isn't theirs.
But that's kind of irrelevant - the things that Led Zeppelin stole were things that just about every blues man "stole" at that time. The better way to phrase it would be that their songwriting ideas were inspired by standard blues licks. The entire blues genre is riddled with this kind of behavior, and has become commonly acceptable. This is part of what makes blues so beautiful; the free flowing exchange of ideas is pretty much boundless.
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Agreed.
The All American rejects, I couldn't tell them from My Chemical Romance. Most Fall Out Boy songs are all the same. Today's rap is crap, not music
| Originally Posted by no1likesme /img/forum/go_quote.gif I agree entirely, Most of my friends have the mentality that if it is popular it must be good. It annoys me to no end when most of what I hear sounds exactly the same as all of the other emo/punk or whatever they call it now. Every singer sounds exactally the same and the songs are pretty much indistinguishable. [/rant] |
Agreed.
The All American rejects, I couldn't tell them from My Chemical Romance. Most Fall Out Boy songs are all the same. Today's rap is crap, not music
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