Audio-gd R2R DAC Thread

[richie60]

The biggest change in my system is also adding a Holo Red as a streamer. This sounds better than my previous Rpi4/Gustard U18 DDC/Aune xc1 clock setup. It seems the R1N really benefits from a higher accuracy clock/lower noise input.

Doesn’t the Holo Red have cheap/lower quality clocks in it? What about usb output on the red into the R1N, how does that sound compared to the rpi4?

 

[Audiophiliac]

Listening to my newest addition, a DI-20:
I2S wins a simply more clarity to our soundstage's presentation award, and finally gives us a trouble-free original presentation, but before that, coax shoves all your data through a big fat same $ single pipeline. Returning to coax, also $20, my space got really messy from those 3 lines sharing, but the data line got the heft from diameter it will always appreciate. The other 3 lines are getting packed into that same 1, so goodbye that new 4 mini-cable offer, albeit with it's original presentation and soundstage simply intact award, but for now coax, for the required meat on it's body. Max $ on the data line's pipe is what some users would prefer, although a 2nd 3-smaller-cables addition could be our best 4-line I2S transmission option.
Please standardize a 3-lines AES cable connection + a single coax cable for the data line I2S solution, with it's big fat pipeline, VS that tiny little hdmi crap I2S cable choice.
Back to currently, my music's meat is full of gaps, because it shared it's bandwidth with 3 other lines-worth of other data. It's not present in the HDMI cable.
Sony and Phillips did you a favour, letting the body have more underlying existence, this way. Engineers, please un-congest me by adding a 3-line cable for the 2nd-4th most important factors. For me, HDMI loses all of it's data's body, before correcting my new mess in the first place after that, so HDMI<Coax.

 

[richie60]

Listening to my newest addition, a DI-20:
I2S wins a simply more clarity to our soundstage's presentation award, and finally gives us a trouble-free original presentation, but before that, coax shoves all your data through a big fat same $ single pipeline. Returning to coax, also $20, my space got really messy from those 3 lines sharing, but the data line got the heft from diameter it will always appreciate. The other 3 lines are getting packed into that same 1, so goodbye that new 4 mini-cable offer, albeit with it's original presentation and soundstage simply intact award, but for now coax, for the required meat on it's body. Max $ on the data line's pipe is what some users would prefer, although a 2nd 3-smaller-cables addition could be our best 4-line I2S transmission option.
Please standardize a 3-lines AES cable connection + a single coax cable for the data line I2S solution, with it's big fat pipeline, VS that tiny little hdmi crap I2S cable choice.
Back to currently, my music's meat is full of gaps, because it shared it's bandwidth with 3 other lines-worth of other data. It's not present in the HDMI cable.
Sony and Phillips did you a favour, letting the body have more underlying existence, this way. Engineers, please un-congest me by adding a 3-line cable for the 2nd-4th most important factors. For me, HDMI loses all of it's data's body, before correcting my new mess in the first place after that, so HDMI<Coax.

The more and more I read about the complexity of digital streaming standards or lack of, the happier I am using a simple cd transport via coax into dac of choice. Just hit ‘play’ on the cd transport and be happy.

 

[Audiophiliac]

The more and more I read about the complexity of digital streaming standards or lack of, the happier I am using a simple cd transport via coax into dac of choice. Just hit ‘play’ on the cd transport and be happy.

Sony\Phillips agreed you would think so, and just gave you the simple big fat pure coax solution, for your meaty diet.
Our engineers have proven it sounds wrong to make our big meaty coax versions have to share cable bandwidth on 3 other lines besides the greedy audio-data line. Going hdmi-gauge points our problem out, in the weakest of ways. Engineering, please let me keep my fat coax cable for audio data, and branch those other 3 off of sharing with that main 1, and onto their own lines, using the XLR connection this new way.
In the digital age, quality of living will all come down to how much you've spent on your home's one Master clock to rule all digital devices, for a more natural lifestyle experience.
I was never a fan of the cd's sketchy unconfident reads, and their need for slow burn-speeds. My new little USB SS drive is not only silent and low-powered for WAV track reads, but the hd $ workers have made me super by keeping up with maxxing out the 2nd latest speed only this model, but still, a 3"x3" 900mb\s 2TB drive? SSD's give me hdd silence, on top of the absolute confidence in my read factor that the big mechanical drives were still noisy on top of giving me also. CD needs EAC secure mode to try to get the studio's original copy intact. Purchasing un-ripped original-copies are my only security with reads. After that, SP\DIF ruins my tidy listening space's presentation and soundstage, and puts gaps and holes in the big fat audio-data pipeline I like best, by sharing 3 more types of info into a single cable stream, and totally ruin it for everyone, cheaper than adding 3 smaller lines for those others to still = half off of, independently, is currently costing us.
After loving why hdmi I2S is the unbroken original presentation, listen to your best coax cable version, and wonder if there's a smaller audio data pipeline going on all the time after everything happens. Then, imagine removing all of that choppiness by spawning 3\4 data streams onto their own 3 XLR lines, for a best cabling war where audio-data keeps this big fat coax that takes up ~1\2 of my total digital signal cable-gauge. Yeah, absolutely SP\DIF makes life wrong even compared to vinyl, because of going single-cable. But my bottom end is a T-Rex compared to all you HDMI-gauge fans. Thank you for existing, too, we will always need our gear to give us the original I2S presentation unaltered, but with my audio-oomph supported by getting 3/4 of this cable's stream their own lines, why not beating HDMI by choosing 3 fatter XLR lanes to branch my stream onto? SP\DIF SS is a total mess, too, it's not just the gaps in my fat audio-data-only stream. Sadly, 4\4 signals get wasted by sharing a single cable, and ruins your transport's ability. But nobody takes away my body, first, I2S cabling! :<

 

[sbgk]

also replace the I2S traces on the circuit board with big fat coax to get a meaty sound, lol

 

[Audiophiliac]

also replace the I2S traces on the circuit board with big fat coax to get a meaty sound, lol

True.
My tube amp uses all point-to-point wiring, no circuit board. It does indeed sound meaty, too.
I2S is the original best version though, since it's 4x un-tampered-with in the first place signals continually. If only this Serial Data line were its own exclusive big phat coaxial cable. Then we could just be XLR connecting the other 3 lines. This smooth unshared audio data presentation could be making everything weigh 10x as much as this if it used a coaxial cable, same as SP\DIF will be again tomorrow. It's no wonder I also gravitate towards heavy metal.