Audio Amplifier Power Output Testing
Oct 21, 2003 at 5:35 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 29

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Audio power Amplifiers rated over 5 watts per channel are tested under the FTC rule governing Power ratings of Power Amplifiers for High Fidelity use. This was done because of the lack of available testing standards regarding power output ratings. Prior to 1974 manufactures were free to use what ever power rating would give the Biggest numbers and thus a 10 watt amplifier could easily be rated at 200 watts. A small foot note would sometimes accompany the ratings like IPP
(Instantaneous Peak Power) IHF (Institute of High fidelity) EIA (Electronic industries association)

The Distortion was also tested at whatever frequency that gave the best numbers. This was most often at 1 KHz. Also frequency response was also tested at whatever method gave the best results. This made meaningful comparisons between Power amplifiers meaningless and thus consumers including me petitioned the Government to set up standards so consumers would not be ripped off by Audio equipment manufactures, And to allow direct comparisons between Audio equipment manufactures.

The government did intervene on behalf of consumers to define standards and these standards were later relaxed as Audio equipment manufactures complained and the EIA lobbied congress on the industry behalf so as to allow a less stringent testing method. Audio power Amplifiers had to be specified as to the Minimum Continuous power output over a specified bandwidth and a defined resistive load and prior to any testing the Amp has to be run at one third power for one hour. The first EIA complaint was the FTC Rule specifying that prior to testing the Amp had to be operated at one third power for one hour so as to get the Amp up to its hottest operating temperature. One third powers generally generate the most heat in a Class b or Class AB output stage due to the large voltage across the conducting transistor. This was later relaxed to one hour accumulated time. See
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/12/amprule.htm
http://www.electronixwarehouse.com/e...er-ratings.htm
http://www.soundwise.org/gethelp/specratings.htm
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/12/amplifierrulenotice.pdf

This was finally amended to operation at one eighth power output so as to accommodate the inadequate heat sinking and cheep underpowered power supplies the new Multi-channel Home Theater Amplifiers are now using. THX certified are meaningless and just hype.

Change could be on they way for the better as more and more people require measurements that better relate to how an Amplifier actual sounds
http://www.aesitalia.org/Materiale/a...r%20thesis.pdf
http://www.crownmagnetics.com/pdf_files/f1p73sc.pdf
http://www.qscaudio.com/press/in_news/cssbypq.htm

The definitive standard for testing of Audio Amplifiers as the HP system. this microprocessor based Interments specifications and the generally accepted method of testing Audio equipment is available hear.
http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/us...zers/8903a.htm
 
Oct 22, 2003 at 2:40 PM Post #2 of 29
Thanx!

ok,
erix
 
Oct 22, 2003 at 4:45 PM Post #3 of 29
Now if only somebody would force the autosound industries to apply the same standards to the products sold in that market!
 
Oct 23, 2003 at 12:22 AM Post #5 of 29
I actually asked a car stereo "exspert" installer how a car stereo amp could produce more power then it drew from the car electrical system (the "specs" claimed 150 watts per channel, but the power was fused at 10 amps). His response was- It's because of the "trick" power supply built into the amp!!!
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Oct 23, 2003 at 7:55 PM Post #6 of 29
A friend gave me a 2 channel, 800 Watt, MOSFET, Clean Power Competition series Cantus Bandus 2800. Not clean at all, Closer to 50 watts and not one MOSFET in the entire amp. I'm suprised it has two channels.
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Oct 24, 2003 at 1:21 AM Post #7 of 29
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Originally posted by binary_digit
A friend gave me a 2 channel, 800 Watt, MOSFET, Clean Power Competition series Cantus Bandus 2800. Not clean at all, Closer to 50 watts and not one MOSFET in the entire amp. I'm suprised it has two channels.
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800 watts...when lightning strikes it
 
Nov 15, 2003 at 9:30 AM Post #9 of 29
Ummm.....does this mean if I try to sell an 8 watt amp as a 1000 watt amp I am going to jail
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Great.......all we need is big brother (government) butting into our lives more
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Nov 23, 2003 at 5:58 PM Post #10 of 29
Czilla9000, I have a 1000 watt amp I wanna sell you...........

"Great.......all we need is big brother (government) butting into our lives more "

Thats why I am so against labeling food for ingredients, and those silly warning labels, etc. Let the buyer beware!
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Jan 9, 2004 at 12:05 AM Post #11 of 29
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Originally posted by Budgie
Czilla9000, I have a 1000 watt amp I wanna sell you...........

"Great.......all we need is big brother (government) butting into our lives more "

Thats why I am so against labeling food for ingredients, and those silly warning labels, etc. Let the buyer beware!
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enough people die, they'll eventually stop buying tainted food.

amps may not be as important (then again.......), but call me a pointy headed liberal, someone has to level the playing field.
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personal injury lawyers rule.
 
Mar 3, 2004 at 8:19 PM Post #12 of 29
Here's my opinion:

There should be a sticker called "GovSpec" (government specification) for amplifiers. Having this sticker means the amp passed stringent testing, like the old testing you mentioned. Then you would know that the GovSpec amps were rated properly. But that testing should be optional. High quality amps wouldn't need to be changed to become GovSpec, but for the cheap overrated ones they would either have to lower the ratings or increase the quality to meet govspec.
 
Jun 11, 2004 at 12:10 AM Post #13 of 29
Amplifier power ratings aren't the only thing that manufacturers lie about, what about those Minisystems with "3 Way Speakers". The "tweeter" on them are basically decoy tweeters. Oh and those headphones that go from 2 to 40,000 Hz. Yeah, at -70 dB. To prevent manufacturers from lying about their products you'd have to have a rule book the size of an unabridged dictionary!
 
Nov 12, 2004 at 9:46 AM Post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by Canman
800 watts...when lightning strikes it


lol amps are always rated in pmpo in the car world. Speaker sizes are more commonly quoted in cm as well and frequency 'response' without db mentioned. There are CAR systems out there from people like alpine that apparently have a 30hz-30khz range!
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Its all a numbers race and I'd welcome any intervention by 'Big Brother' to stop it.
 

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