AUDEZE LCD XC

Jan 22, 2025 at 2:55 PM Post #4,216 of 4,223
I'm considering buying LCD-XC along with these replacement grills. Do I need anything else to convert XC to X, or are the felt inserts in the cups enough to recreate the acoustic properties of X grills?

NOTE: 1... this will void your Audeze warranty.
NOTE 2: Do not remove the felt from the wooden cups.... you will need to keep them intact for the future. Just be careful with the wooden cups, they are fragile.

I used Micheal's craft felt (1mm). I test the permeability by putting it up to my mouth :wink:
Arctic Cables grills took two weeks to arrive in Canada.


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I used a silver felt pen to outline the cutout on the felt (and quickly cleaned off the paint with rubbing alcohol). Used a soldering iron to burn the screw holes in the felt.

Finished. See also $5 grills I got on Aliexpress (but didn't use).

Outcome is a slightly wider sound stage (then LCD-XC). Also slightly sharper sound profile. Vocals forward and crisp. Imaging slightly better.

So far I am enjoying this mod.


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Jan 24, 2025 at 6:26 PM Post #4,218 of 4,223
I'd be interested to here how does the XC sounds with grills?
"Outcome is a slightly wider sound stage (then LCD-XC). Also slightly sharper sound profile. Vocals forward and crisp. Imaging slightly better."
 
Jan 31, 2025 at 11:30 AM Post #4,219 of 4,223
Maybe this is a small to non-existent intersection of people, let alone hoping if they/you exist they/you also read this thread :) ... but here goes:

The MrSpeakers/DCA Ether C Flow tuning kit comes with a few different filters. Anyone have experience with this grill mod and those particular filters, regarding both do they fit well and what sound effect do the different ones have? And if so which color did you go with and why?

I could try all and report back if no one can provide feedback on this unique use case. But I'm happier to hear feedback to just do the fit once and not do trials. Much thanx for any replies.
 
Feb 8, 2025 at 8:40 AM Post #4,221 of 4,223
NOTE: 1... this will void your Audeze warranty.
That's something I was too afraid of, so in the end decided to go with the open back LCD-X. Had them for couple of days now. Used them for almost the whole day yesterday and to my surprise the weight is not an issue. Using them with just a small EQ bass correction to compensate the minor bass fluctuation present in most measurements. Difference is barely audible (if at all), but there is no reason not to do it, so...



Freq GainQ
Peak1 20 5.4 0.6
Peak2 22 1.2 3
Peak3 29 -2.4 5.2


I've also tried using the oratory1990 EQ profile, but while it made the vocals more present and the guitars more "crunchy", the overall tuning seems to suffer a bit, at least in music I tend to listen to. The guitars lost a lot of meat and the sound, to my surprise, lost a lot of space to breathe.

Listening to Klavier by Rammstein: stock tuning is like a spacious open-air venue, while the EQ makes it sound like a gig in a small club.

I love the warmer sound signature compared to Arya Stealth, which I think I'll be switching to from time to time for some orchestral music or movie soundtracks.

I feel like by getting the LCD-X my collection is complete with enough variety to cover all the use cases.
 
Feb 8, 2025 at 8:51 AM Post #4,222 of 4,223
I find that the LCD-XC has more bite(in a good way) than the LCD-X. Although many swear by EQ for the XC it’s my feeling that headphones should sound as they do and if not sufficient sans EQ then the headphones are inadequate. I really enjoy my XC’s with my Silver Fox amp but my Abyss TC’s with Nirvana cable are my go to headphones.
 
Feb 11, 2025 at 3:26 PM Post #4,223 of 4,223
The MrSpeakers/DCA Ether C Flow tuning kit comes with a few different filters. Anyone have experience with this grill mod and those particular filters, regarding both do they fit well and what sound effect do the different ones have? And if so which color did you go with and why?

I could try all and report back if no one can provide feedback on this unique use case....

Okay, can share some words. Edit: and this is with the older tuning kit that used the circular filter like used on these LCDs; today's version is a rectangle that is only a little larger than the Ether driver.

Firstly I'm absolutely amazed at how dramatic different pad types and density behind the driver, filtering the back wave, alters the sound produced from the front wave entering the ear canal.

The white pad produced a very well dampened monitor like reproduction akin to a well treated small room. The whole audible spectrum had a tilt away from the treble in favor of bass. Years ago, I'd probably prefer this and stay this way. (Otoh, visually ... black headphone, gold grill, silver yolk rods, white pad under the gold grill? No Thank You! Blech. Lol)

When I put the headphone around my thigh and played at the same level i listen, to listen to what those around me would hear, it had a pretty well attenuated sound reminiscent of how my original Ether open sounded; of course still very audible to those around me if you crack the volume like I do. Ymmv

Now caveat first regarding the black filter. I'm running a hybrid arrangement where
1. I cut a small oval / more eye shaped hole in the supplied black filter, about 1" x 0.5".
2. And I stack that with a thin foam filter; the one that comes with Beyer DT880 pads and im sure others. This is a nearly acoustically transparent foam.

So in the center for about a 1/2 inch vertically the sound coming from the back of the driver is only and hardly filtered/reduced by only the thin foam pad and for the remaining driver height vertically it's both the thinner (than the white pad) black pad + black foam.

... and this is, wow! 1st thought was high end speakers in a large less treated livelier room But don't get me wrong not reverberant or ringy; I have no immediate need to cut any frequencies with an eq.

Dynamic with excellent presence, air, treble sizzle, midbass fullness, near perfect. Tho with rolled off low/sub bass. However i have few dac to amp chains that don't have the ability to eq it in the digital or analog domain or have bass boost in the amp so that's not a concern for me just yet. This is by far my preference of what I've tried.

When I put the headphone with this rear pad pair around my thigh to listen to what those around me would hear it is noticibly less attenuated than with the white pad. People around you and in other rooms will more easily hear what you're listening to.

I stupidly threw away the small eye shaped part of the black filter I cut out. But have a plan to replace that, so that I can experience the effect on sound of the pad fully intact.

I'll end saying again this pad changes to the rear sound wave surprised me. It has a dramatic effect on the front wave hitting the eardrum.

... hours of listening goes by ... ;)

Update: It's been a few weeks. While I'll say I do prefer the LCD-X vs. XC overall, due to the greater roll-off in the lowest octaves with the cups replaced with grills and probably the wrong kind of felt backing from what's officially used, and the volume level I found myself listening at which fills the room while my wife tries to sleep, I put the cups back on. However, with the conditions that:
a) I removed 2 cup screws, emphasizing the bass more (I may try 3 screws in 1 removed, again)
b) I am using a folded foam filter over the back 2/3 on the driver side in the ear cavity space.

Still experimenting, so no pictures yet as the filter is just a "make-shift" attempt at the moment. I also have a pack of 4 different density filters on order and will try the differing densities, singled and doubled, with full and 2/3 and 1/2 partial driver covering, when they arrive. Haven't taken relative measurements. May eventually. What matters more is how it affects the presentation of my favorite most well known songs to me.

This seems to me to result in a reduction of the peak in the mid-presence-low treble region, leaving the bass to pass thru mostly unaffected, and the 1/3 of the driver that is unfiltered lets enough of the shortest wave-lengths out -- which also requires the least amount of acoustical energy, i.e. movement of air -- to leave that seemingly unaffected too, or making that just right. I'm listening without EQ but the bass-boost of my McIntosh MHA-100 amp that is centered around either 40 or 45hz and seems to have a pretty low Q is at +2.5dB or +5dB depending on what the recording calls for.
 
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