Audeze LCD-4

Sep 26, 2024 at 9:12 AM Post #12,167 of 12,472
Yeah, I'd ask for a partial refund to reflect the defects and if the seller isn't accommodating, I'd get a refund and send them back. The LCD-4 aren't so rare that you'll never find another pair.

It's hard to tell the damage from the photos. Are they cracks and are they deep? If so, get a refund.
I would have done the same. Those cracks look like age related cracks on the old varnish. Instead of removing the old layer someone just put on a new one. The headphones are probably fine, but not 'flawless'. I think, partial refund is a good and fair move.
 
Sep 27, 2024 at 2:32 AM Post #12,168 of 12,472
Whilst I regret selling my LCD 4 and was looking to require one, the CRBN 2 just got announced and has become a priority for me.


Jude also mentioned in the Canjam preview video that it has the most detail of any Audeze headphone ever.
Well he kind of has to say good things. They do pay him for that time slot.

The CRBN 1 were pretty bad IMO as far as electrostatics go. I'd place them around the Stax L700 even without debating the whole stator sticking issues.
 
Sep 27, 2024 at 5:59 PM Post #12,169 of 12,472
My first pair of CRBN had the sticking stators. Audeze replaced them. Since then there has been zero issues. They fixed that problem.
Tastes do vary, but I really like the CRBN. More so than my 007 and 009.
It is different enough from the LCD4 to have both but is still a similar tuning. But if your looking for classic Stax sound then you will be disappointed.
 
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Sep 28, 2024 at 3:51 PM Post #12,171 of 12,472
Anyone ever compare the original blue LCD-4 cable to the newer one?

The blue smurf cable from Locus Audio? I think it's pretty much unobtainable now. The salt and pepper current cable is a bit smoother and warmer sounding with a bit of graininess across the top end which really helps with the current Audeze house sound (LCD-5 and MM-500).

The blue cable is a better cable for the older Audeze house sound that ended with the LCD-4. It's a bit more detailed and resolving along the upper and the bass is a bit tighter. That same cable would end up too bright (at least for me) on the LCD-5 line.
 
Sep 29, 2024 at 7:23 AM Post #12,174 of 12,472
Wrong thread, but nice of Audeze to offer an upgrade path.
 

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Sep 29, 2024 at 4:34 PM Post #12,175 of 12,472
The blue smurf cable from Locus Audio? I think it's pretty much unobtainable now. The salt and pepper current cable is a bit smoother and warmer sounding with a bit of graininess across the top end which really helps with the current Audeze house sound (LCD-5 and MM-500).

The blue cable is a better cable for the older Audeze house sound that ended with the LCD-4. It's a bit more detailed and resolving along the upper and the bass is a bit tighter. That same cable would end up too bright (at least for me) on the LCD-5 line.
My 2023 LCD-4 came with their newer Double braided cable and they simply just rock. I think the newer cable versions are some of the best stock cables Audeze has ever produced.
 
Sep 29, 2024 at 4:40 PM Post #12,176 of 12,472
My 2023 LCD-4 came with their newer Double braided cable and they simply just rock. I think the newer cable versions are some of the best stock cables Audeze has ever produced.
I was also quite happy with the newer braided cable when I had my lcd-4. Rebought one after selling my original lcd-4 and got the blue cable with it. Although stiff and thick (never thought I'd use those words in an audio forum), it does sound quite good.
 
Sep 29, 2024 at 4:43 PM Post #12,177 of 12,472
I was also quite happy with the newer braided cable when I had my lcd-4. Rebought one after selling my original lcd-4 and got the blue cable with it. Although stiff and thick (never thought I'd use those words in an audio forum), it does sound quite good.
Exactly. The standard Audeze cable that comes with their lower end models such as the LCD-X, LCD-2, MM100 are kinda meh, IMO but higher end audeze cable that are packaged with the LCD-5, LCD-4 and maybe the MM500 (maybe but not sure) are really great quality and sound much better than the standard ones.
 
Oct 3, 2024 at 4:32 AM Post #12,178 of 12,472
Finally got around to replacing the pads from 2016. Took me around 90 minutes due to the badly designed Audeze moon adhesives - had to take a break and guzzle whiskey 🥃 The sound is also quite different after changing the pads, didn't anticipate that.
 
Oct 3, 2024 at 8:31 AM Post #12,179 of 12,472
Finally got around to replacing the pads from 2016. Took me around 90 minutes due to the badly designed Audeze moon adhesives - had to take a break and guzzle whiskey 🥃 The sound is also quite different after changing the pads, didn't anticipate that.
I started with Audeze headphones in early 2021, when the main pad shift had already happened. I've very recently replaced a set of pads on my first set. However, you saying this makes me wonder if I should stockpile a few of the current design so that when I need to update again, I'll be able to keep my familiar signature going when my second set inevitably needs refreshment. I use the headphones for critical work, so intimacy with the signature is a high priority for me.
 
Oct 3, 2024 at 9:13 AM Post #12,180 of 12,472
I started with Audeze headphones in early 2021, when the main pad shift had already happened. I've very recently replaced a set of pads on my first set. However, you saying this makes me wonder if I should stockpile a few of the current design so that when I need to update again, I'll be able to keep my familiar signature going when my second set inevitably needs refreshment. I use the headphones for critical work, so intimacy with the signature is a high priority for me.
Don't know if I like it more or less. The moon pads exhausted me, might have been the whiskey though, so only listened for about 20 min. It's without a doubt different. Need another couple listening sessions.
 

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