[Tiemen]

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Originally Posted by WittyzTH /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's more muddy than the M50.

ouch, must be a very bright headphone....

 

[WittyzTH]

Probably.. it sounds quite bright. I can say it's brighter than some Grado too.

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One thing I need to mention about M50 is its headband is very tight esp. for a big head. the OP may need to put them in some places like PC case first.

 

[Ares]

I know this is full sized headphones, but is it brighter than the Denon C551ks? Because those irritate me if i turn the volume up too much (but oddly sound fine at lower listening levels).

I want the one that sounds least like the Denons and more laid back and airy.

Right now I am leaning towards the M50, but I am going to wait until the end of the day.

 

[holland]

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Originally Posted by WittyzTH /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's more muddy than the M50.

I have the DT770 2005 and the ATH-M50. I couldn't disagree more with the statement. I, coincidentally, have both in front of me right now. The DT770 2005 is far from muddy. The ATH-M50 sounds congested, compared to it. The DT770 2005 has better soundstage and better separation of notes and layers. The ATH-M50 is more forward with a small soundstage.

The ATH-M50 has much higher sensitivity and is easier to drive, not that the DT770 2005 is difficult.

The DT770 2005 is bright and takes a little while to come back down, but it is and always will be bright (just like the DT880 2005 and the DT990 2005). If you're allergic to Beyer highs, the DT770 2005 is not for you.

Tonally they are quite different as well.

 

[WittyzTH]

I can't stand with DT880 and 990 but to me DT770 is still far from that bright. You may right M50 has more forward presentation which I mean it makes me feel the M50 is brighter than DT770.

and yes it's quite different from each other.

 

[holland]

If you're talking about the DT770 Pro/80, your characterization is correct. The DT770 2005 edition sounds drastically different than the DT770 Pro/80.

Edit: Perhaps we are misunderstanding the term bright in our communication with each other. There is a noticeable sizzle in the treble on the DT770 2005. Compared to the ATH-M50, the mids are further away. The ATH-M50 has a boost in the mid to upper-mids, which the DT770 doesn't have. That's what I mean by forward. It makes it seem like the singer is right in your face. The DT770 is further back, and helps to create a larger soundstage. It may be artificially doing so, as some music just doesn't have sound stage, but it's not in your face. The ATH-M50 is not as forward as a Grado, but much more forward than the DT770 2005.

 

[lifestream]

Quote:

Originally Posted by holland /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you're talking about the DT770 Pro/80, your characterization is correct. The DT770 2005 edition sounds drastically different than the DT770 Pro/80. Edit: Perhaps we are misunderstanding the term bright in our communication with each other. There is a noticeable sizzle in the treble on the DT770 2005. Compared to the ATH-M50, the mids are further away. The ATH-M50 has a boost in the mid to upper-mids, which the DT770 doesn't have. That's what I mean by forward. It makes it seem like the singer is right in your face. The DT770 is further back, and helps to create a larger soundstage. It may be artificially doing so, as some music just doesn't have sound stage, but it's not in your face. The ATH-M50 is not as forward as a Grado, but much more forward than the DT770 2005.

I still find that the M50 has a pretty nice, three dimensional sound stage though. It's quite a good phone.

 

[holland]

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Originally Posted by lifestream /img/forum/go_quote.gif I still find that the M50 has a pretty nice, three dimensional sound stage though. It's quite a good phone.

I never said it wasn't.

 

[Ares]

I have placed an order from Amazon Warehouse Deals for the DT 770s. I choose them because of the descriptions of its recessed mids, large soundstage, and the stock pads.

 

[Magnumxl711]

IF the two headphones were in a fight with you...

The ATH-M50, amp'd, will kick your ass...
The DT-70, amp'd, will mellow you down and convince you to not fight

i have no idea what i just typed i was tired

 

[hardstyler]

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Originally Posted by Magnumxl711 /img/forum/go_quote.gif IF the two headphones were in a fight with you... The ATH-M50, amp'd, will kick your ass... The DT-70, amp'd, will mellow you down and convince you to not fight i have no idea what i just typed i was tired

Yeah you're right that doesn't make any sense.

 

[shmoreblore2009]

If you've read the post I recently made, I just got my M50's 3 days ago and its just everything I want in a pair of phones and then some in terms of sound quality, comfort, and isolation. I love that my whole ear fits inside and everything's snug yet comfortable. Everything sonically is detailed, crisp, I don't find them biased on any end of the spectrum at all, and overall they're just lovely for rock or metal or jazz... I haven't tried them on classical, but besides that the isolation's fantastic for their price range. Just outstanding. We'll see if it improves after 50 more hours of burn-in as some users suggest here...

 

[marsbound2024]

I am considering the ATH-M50s as well as AKG K-81DJs mainly for use with my iPod. I am open to other possibilities. My original post is http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/a...cision-415834/. I really want a great sound stage, warm sound but accurate, well-defined bass but not overpowering. See my thread for a more detailed need. I am hoping to make my decision fairly soon.

 

[ARwCoco]

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Originally Posted by Pianist /img/forum/go_quote.gif the M50s will work great for you. Just give them time to burn in for at least 50 hours to really appreciate their sound.

I agree ... a dedicated weekend of nonstop burn in made my M50's
really come alive. The midrange improved a lot. And they sound
so good with my recently completed "Starving Student" amp.
If you like detail with some bass punch consider the M50.