Asus xonar d2/pm for allround use?
Aug 13, 2013 at 5:05 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 15

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Hi i got a good deal on this soundcard for just
40$ used only a few months. I have the creative
Aurena live and sennheiser pc323d for gaming. The
xonar d2/pm is a little old but will it still work with
nowadays computers and drivers?
 
Aug 14, 2013 at 1:53 AM Post #4 of 15

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Hi i got a good deal on this sound card for just
40$ used only a few months. I have the Creative
Aurena live and Sennheiser pc323d for gaming. The
Xonar d2/pm is a little old but will it still work with
nowadays computers and drivers?

Asus last updated the D2's drivers 10 months ago (Win 8), also the third party "Unified Xonar Driver" can be used and they were last updated less then 4 months ago.
So the D2 should work just as good as any of the newer Xonar sound cards.
The only thing you might consider getting is an external headphone amplifier to plug into the D2's green jack. but updating the headphones first would be better before adding an amplifier.
 
Aug 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM Post #5 of 15

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Hi Purple Angel. Well thats my goal a better headphone in
the future like the beyerdynamic 770pro:) But the sennheiser pc 323d
i got now and the creative Aurena must in some way sound better than
the on board sound right?
 
One last thing i'd like to be able to use both, onboard and the xonar d2/pm card
so i don't have to disable onboard sound? Meaning switching between
the two sound device,Is that possible?
 
Tanks for your answer:)
 
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Hi Purple Angel. Well that's my goal a better headphone in
the future like the Beyerdynamic 770pro:) But the Sennheiser PC 323d
i got now and the creative Aurena must in some way sound better than
the on board sound right?
 
One last thing I'd like to be able to use both, on-board and the Xonar d2/pm card
so i don't have to disable on-board sound? Meaning switching between
the two sound device,Is that possible?

I would recommend looking into getting the Audio Technica ATH-A900X closed headphones or ATH-AD900X open headphones, over Beyerdynamic DT770s.
Maybe sell off the CALs and PC323D and put all cash towards ATH-A900X or ATH-AD900X
and buy a $15 add-on mic
 
You can use more the one sound card in a computer, never done it myself.
Personally I can't see one good reason someone would keep using on-board audio when you have the Xonar D2.
 
Have you tried plugging the PC323D directly into the Xonar D2, for gaming?
 
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Hi no i haven't got the xonar d2 yet till monday:)
But i definitely will use my sennheiser 323 with
the asus card and see how it performs:)
 
Wonder if the surround effects are better with
the xonar over the usb 7.1 surround card that
came with the pc323d?
 
As for the headphones i'll look on the ones
that you recommend when the money is there
and also maybe af amp also.
 
Thank you again for your help to a newbie in
the audio/headphone world:):)
 
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Wonder if the surround effects are better with
the Xonar over the USB 7.1 surround card that
came with the pc323d?

Could be the Xonar D2 and PC323D use the same Dolby Headphone software driver, both running of the computers CPU.
I would think the Xonar D2 comes with a way way better DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) chip, then the PC323D's USB adapter.
 
Aug 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM Post #9 of 15

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I'm a bit confused? You say there are an buildt in
dac in the xonar d2 but do i need an external
AMP/dac for better/deeper sound output on my
headphones ? Is it even noticable with extern dac/amp?

And what are the difference between dac and amp?
 
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I'm a bit confused? You say there are an build in
DAC in the Xonar D2 but do i need an external
AMP/dac for better/deeper sound output on my
headphones ? Is it even noticable with external dac/amp?
And what are the difference between DAC and amp?

Audio is stored and processed in a digital (zeros & ones) format.
Amplifiers and the human ear are analog (wave).
So you need to DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) to change the digital audio signal to an analog audio signal, before the audio signal can be sent to the amplifier.
 
The Xonar D2 and the PC323Ds USB adapter contain a DAC chip.
The Xonar D2 should have a DAC chip that is way way better then the PC323Ds USB adapters DAC chip.
 
The analog audio signal that comes out of a DAC chip is not strong enough to power a diaphram (diaphragms are in speakers and headphone cups), so the analog audio signal needs to be sent to an amplifier to increase the signal strenght enough to move the diaphram inside speakers and headphones.
The diaphragm is what creates the audio sound wave ours ears can hear.
 
The Xonar D2 output jack does have enough power to drive some headphones, but kind of in a crude way.
(headphone plugged directly into the Xonar D2 may have a more bloated (louder but less detailed) bass.
Where as a true headphone amplifier will create audio that is more detailed and balanced.
 
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Well that was really a good explanation i think i get the picture:) 
 
Can you recommend a good amp for the xonar d2 that's not too
expensive ? Found one here in Denmark in the Hifiklubben.dk
this one: http://www.hifiklubben.dk/produkter/tilbudstorvet/diverse/stockitem_427_60033.htm
or maybe one of these : http://www.ifi-audio.com/en/all_p.html#
 
Hope the links work:)

I know nothing about those amplifiers and DACs.
Nor do I understand which numbers are prices.
 
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That's ok I'll just stay with the card
and maybe later get me an amp if
i find the sound insufficient.

Really excited and wonder how much difference
there is with over the onboard sound:)
 
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That's ok I'll just stay with the card
and maybe later get me an amp if
i find the sound insufficient.

Really excited and wonder how much difference
there is with over the on-board sound:)

The PAV2V (Pocket Amplifier 2 Version 2) is sold on eBay for around $60 and ships from Canada.
Might also looking into buying a O2 (Objective 2) headphone amplifier.
 
Check the Head-Fi "Amplification for Sale" thread, a fellow European might have a good deal on a used headphone amplifier.
http://www.head-fi.org/f/6551/amplification-for-sale-trade
 

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