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Asus Essence One Headphone Amp/DAC (CeBIT 2011)
Sep 28, 2011 at 2:03 AM Post #226 of 3,573


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jalyst said:
 
Anybody??
http://www.head-fi.org/t/542563/asus-essence-one-headphone-amp-dac-cebit-2011/135#post_7735450
 
I'm not asking folks to break their NDA's etc...
Just thoughts on if it's likely for Asus to head in this direction w/their next rev. of ST, STX, or E1.
Thanks very much to those who can spare a minute or two.
 
Cheers.
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Started a dedicated thread for those can spare a minute
http://www.head-fi.org/t/573650/revised-essence-st-stx-or-asus-usb-w-these-improvements#post_7785850
Thank-you...
 
Sep 29, 2011 at 7:08 PM Post #227 of 3,573


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derbigpr said:
 
Maybe because Europe is a larger and more important market than US?   (750 vs 320 million people)
There isnt a single reason why it should be on market in US before Europe. Unless you're joking, you're such a stereotype, thinking that US in the center of the world.  
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Europe is a more important market than the US in what way? Because that's where you live?
 
Businesses use consumer markets to gauge financial importance, so here's a single reason for you.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets
 
It looks like you fit into the exact stereotype you're accusing someone else of, while comparing a continent to a single country.
 
 
 
Oct 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM Post #228 of 3,573


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abjure said:
 
Europe is a more important market than the US in what way? Because that's where you live?
 
Businesses use consumer markets to gauge financial importance, so here's a single reason for you.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets
 
It looks like you fit into the exact stereotype you're accusing someone else of, while comparing a continent to a single country.
 
 
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First, note the smiley at the end.
 
Second, it's not because I live in Europe, its because we in Europe don't get all the stuff before the guys in USA do,  as it was said.  In fact, we get a lot of stuff after USA, not to mention most of the gear (and roducts in general) is 2 or 3 times cheaper in USA, so there is no reason to complain just because they don't get something first.  As I said,  there is no reason whatsoever why USA would get any product before Europe or anyone else does.
 
I don't look at Europe as a continent, I look at Europe as a European Union, something like UNITED States of America, even though its a different system, its similar in many ways. I also dont look at USA a one country, I look at it as 50 states united, each different than the other, some very very different from each other, same as countries in EU.
 
Also, according to the data on wikipedia link that you've posted, if you just take the main countries from European Union, you have a market larger than that of USA.
 
But, I don't want to get into politics on this forum, as we're all here for the same reason, to talk about our money eating hobbies. 
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Oct 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM Post #230 of 3,573


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jrg1990 said:
Some sites have started listing it, http://rebelgadgets.com/product.php?ProductID=885 , it's priced at £85 .
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This listing has been in place on this site for months and there are others.  Its a common marketing technique to get people on the site, the duration of the listing it has been listed as outof stock.  Companies can gain higher priority listings on search engines by using this technique prior to release, then when stock arrives they list a higher price.
 
That retail price is absurd and is a number pulled out of thin air I am sure, try contacting them and trying to pre-order at that price and you will get told its not possible.  I have seen similar techiques used with PC equipment many times in the last 5 years and even with high end photography equipment.
 
If you want a more realistic UK price check this site:
 
http://www.cclonline.com/product/66258/90-YAB630B-UAY0MZ/Sound-Cards/Asus-Xonar-Essence-ONE-External-USB-Soundcard/SND0031/
 
 
Oct 3, 2011 at 5:32 PM Post #231 of 3,573
Oct 5, 2011 at 2:30 PM Post #235 of 3,573
Photos of the Audio Precision test report courtesy of http://www.on-mag.fr/index.php/topaudio/tests-auditions/10599-asus-xonar-essence-one--dac-usb-bit-perfect-et-ampli-casque-audiophile-a-petit-prix









 
Oct 12, 2011 at 2:21 AM Post #237 of 3,573
RMAA test results of the Essence One Here http://www.hdfever.fr/2011/10/10/comparatif-de-circuits-analogiques-asus-xonar-hdav-vs-dac-asus-essence-one-vs-oppo-bdp-93eu-signature-nuforce/
The page is in French but Google Translate should do the trick, anyway, there are three tab in the middle of the page and the graphs are displayed on the second tab which is titled "Analyse des circuits analogiques"
 
IMHO, that doesn't look impressive with the Essence One being outperformed by the Xonar HDAV
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Of course, I'm still waiting for more independent results, especially since the AP report never included the reference voltage even of the measure were expressed in dBr.
 
Oct 14, 2011 at 10:33 PM Post #239 of 3,573


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khaos974 said:
RMAA test results of the Essence One Here http://www.hdfever.fr/2011/10/10/comparatif-de-circuits-analogiques-asus-xonar-hdav-vs-dac-asus-essence-one-vs-oppo-bdp-93eu-signature-nuforce/
The page is in French but Google Translate should do the trick, anyway, there are three tab in the middle of the page and the graphs are displayed on the second tab which is titled "Analyse des circuits analogiques"
 
IMHO, that doesn't look impressive with the Essence One being outperformed by the Xonar HDAV
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Of course, I'm still waiting for more independent results, especially since the AP report never included the reference voltage even of the measure were expressed in dBr.
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On that note, you forget that despite the Essence One being higher speced than the Xonar HDAV it is ultimately limited by USB which is pretty noisy by any sense and maybe gets worse with more devices plugged in whereas the HDAV is limited only by the mobo itself.
 
Lastly,really, really impressive specs there, better than Benchmark DAC 1? surprise surpise. Going by the soundnews review, looks like it needs some op-amp rolling to pair with LCD 2s to sound more neutral but will pair up well with HD 800s. Not like I have either but its really a fascinating device that at a little less than half the price of DAC1, possibly outperforming it, well done ASUS.
 
 
Oct 14, 2011 at 11:40 PM Post #240 of 3,573
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On that note, you forget that despite the Essence One being higher speced than the Xonar HDAV it is ultimately limited by USB which is pretty noisy by any sense and maybe gets worse with more devices plugged in whereas the HDAV is limited only by the mobo itself.
 
Lastly,really, really impressive specs there, better than Benchmark DAC 1? surprise surpise. Going by the soundnews review, looks like it needs some op-amp rolling to pair with LCD 2s to sound more neutral but will pair up well with HD 800s. Not like I have either but its really a fascinating device that at a little less than half the price of DAC1, possibly outperforming it, well done ASUS.
 
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USB isn't a limitation, especilly since the Essence One has a separate power supply.
 
The provided AP charts are impressive, but ultimately tell us nothing since the the measures are all expressed in dBr with the reference level NOT PROVIDED. The RMAA measures are fairly average, but I don' trust RMAA much. Finally, the best guest for the measured performance of the Essence One would be to look at the Stereophile measures of both the Benchmark DAC and the STX. They show that the DAC-1 measures slightly better that the STX which according to ASUS measures better than the Essence One.
 
 
 
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