[KR...]

DanG,

Thanks for the heads up. Too bad the older models are no longer being made. What about the shockwave models?

MacDEF and coolvij,

Yeah, ok but I don't want MD.

Onix,

Thanks for the review! Too bad that RS model is no longer being made, kicking myself for not getting it.

chych,

LOL, I can't belive I didn't catch that! Maybe they are just really tiny headphones?

Tim D,

Silly person

Thanks guys, but I guess the search goes on.

 

[Flumpus]

Um, the ct780 DOES have a line out, I have the player, and it's very nice. Sounds good too... No worse than the line out on my roommate's 570.

 

[Onix]

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Originally posted by KR... Onix, Thanks for the review! Too bad that RS model is no longer being made, kicking myself for not getting it.

I am sure you can still find them in the stores, probably under the new stuff

. Too bad you are not in Mexico man, there is a bunch of them on all the Radioshack stores, and I think they are going to be there for a loooong time, since most people would rather buy Sony's. Take care KR.

 

[DanG]

Sorry about that, Flumpus. Thanks for that heads-up. Much more cheerful than mine, I suppose.

I guess it's the 480 that has no line out. Is the line-out integrated with the headphone jack or separate?

 

[Flumpus]

The lineout is indeed seperate from the headphone jack...

 

[KR...]

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The lineout is indeed seperate from the headphone jack...

That's great to know. Have you had a chance to compare it to other portables? How would you rate the 780 next to them?
Thank you for your help.

 

[Neruda]

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Originally posted by MacDEF Seriously, though, in a portable environment, I guarantee you won't be able to hear the difference.

LOL! That's not what i hear whenever people start talking about MP3!

 

[KR...]

LOL Neruda!

It's like don't worry about MD and MP3 formats, everything sounds like **** in a portable environment.

My CD player sound killer, it just kills batteries, and skips like crazy. I just need something more up to date.

 

[Braver]

now don't you go calling MD-sound ****!

seriously, you want great sound on the go? portability? and you don't want MD? weird stuff man, beyond my comprehension

if I ever see you touching the shockprotection button on your p-cdp, team-MD's gonna get u!

yeah, you be different and get a Pana

enjoy it tho. seen the 780 in real-life, it just looks business, alu lid an all. freaking huge tho.

 

[MacDEF]

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LOL! That's not what i hear whenever people start talking about MP3!

Neruda, that's cuz there's a difference

Seriously, though, I've said this before. MD standard, MD LP2, and 320k MP3 (with a good encoder) are great for true portable environments. Sometimes even 296k MP3. If you're in a noisy environment, or doing something (exercising) where you're creating noise yourself, the difference between CD, MD, and high bitrate MP3 is negligible.

It's when you get to LP4, or <256k MP3 (or even some bad encoders at 256) when it becomes apparent.

 

[coolvij]

ya, listen to the MacMan...

Tho - I think you also need SEMI-DECENT cans...if you are working out with the cheapy-came-with-its, for fear of destroying your "nice" cans, then MP3 might actually sound...better!

Everyone who actively listen really need KSC-35s...

 

[KR...]

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now don't you go calling MD-sound ****!

You know I shouldn't say that MD sounds like ****, since I never heard that format. But it was meant to be taken as a joke. anyway. That said, the specs for MD, tells me to stay far, far away.

I'm very much leaning towards the SL-CT780

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enjoy it tho. seen the 780 in real-life, it just looks business, alu lid an all. freaking huge tho.

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1 World''s Thinnest as of DEC. 2000

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2 World''s lightest as of DEC. 2000

Yeah, sounds freaking huge to me, LOL!!!

 

[Vertigo-1]

*looks up the largest MD player there is...and glances at his E900*

Yep, Braver's right, that 780 is freaking huge.

 

[Flumpus]

Don't let these evil MD guys discourage you

The 780 is a great player, very little difference between the line out on it, the 470 and the 570. I'm very happy with my purchase, and the batteries last FOREVER.

 

[BlindSeer]

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Originally posted by MacDEF Neruda, that's cuz there's a difference Seriously, though, I've said this before. MD standard, MD LP2, and 320k MP3 (with a good encoder) are great for true portable environments. It's when you get to LP4, or <256k MP3 (or even some bad encoders at 256) when it becomes apparent.

I don't want to get into a big compression debate, and I've never actually heard LP2, but when you equate it with 320kbps MP3s, I have to be skeptical. LP2 is technically has a bitrate of something like 132kbps, right? So if it sounds so amazing at such low bitrates, why aren't ATRAC3 encoders at all prevalent as opposed to MP3, WMA, or even Ogg Vorbis? And especially if at 66kbps, as you say, ATRAC3 approaches the quality of 256kbps MP3s.

Like I said, I'm skeptical.

But I must say that I am not at all an audiophile; I'm quite, quite happy to listen to 160-192kbps VBR MP3s on my SR-60s. Not to say I'm not thirstily eyeing the Etymotics

, but I'm pretty easy to please. So in general, I trust the judgment of you gifted-eared people, but these comments just jumped out at me as defying reason.