[Nagasaki_Kid]

Why RIP, why not buy some magnet wire wind the coild glue it to the diaphragm and rebuild the driver.

 

[RockCity]

Thanks for the images, much of what I expected. Remember the multiplier in audio is generally 5x-10x. There's about $5 worth of parts not including labor and obviously capital. We're not in this hobby to buy gold.

 

[xwall]

Very good to see...So amazing! Should be same as my 225i

 

[kugino]

yep, having just re-cabled my sr60, that looks all-too-familiar. my soldering job is way better than what i found when i opened it up, though

 

[jonathanjong]

Where are the pixies?

 

[achristilaw]

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Originally Posted by jonathanjong /img/forum/go_quote.gif Where are the pixies?

Luncheon with the fairies.

 

[buddhashenglong]

Grado the Frog, layin' there all dissected.

 

[Bullseye]

Yeah, big benefit is what they all get with this.
The total price of a set of plastic grado headphones might be ~$20-$30, and the metal and wood ~$30-$40 (maybe a bit more, probably less). Doing all the job manually might increase the price of the materials to that level.

So imagine all the other headphone brands that build all the headphone parts and assembly by machines, and even less handwork that in grado headphones is made. Then the benefit is even higher...

DIY is the best solution

 

[Rav]

With regard to pricing, i think a lot of people underestimate R&D costs, tooling etc. Plus theres the fact that to make a similar product will require quite a bit of startup capitol, a fair chunk of time to develop it, work out the process to make it, make it and then you have to try and sell it.

It like taking your car to a dent repair specialist, who hits it out with a hammer in five minutes and charges you $100. it might seem like a lot of cash for little time, but you're paying for the expertise of knowing exactly where and how hard to hit it.

 

[hypoicon]

Wow. When my pair of SR-80s blew a driver due to an equipment malfunction I just sent them back to Grado for repair. They were back in about 10 days working perfectly, at a total cost of $30 (a reasonable flat rate for a $100 headphone, I was suprised).

Shame that these were simply destroyed for no reason other than curiosity.

 

[Epicfailman]

Those aren't destroyed at all. Heck, I can't stand to look at the lower model grados untouched....they are so easy to disassemble that they are begging for modifications that really do wonders for the sound. You might consider them destroyed, but the drivers work just like they did before he took them apart.

 

[ting.mike]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's not so much the craftsmanship but the price. You can get stunning results from stuff that doesn't look great, but there's no denying there's maybe $15 of parts in there. The more expensive models don't have especially more expensive parts inside, either. That's why something like the HD-800 is particularly galling. They might have $50 into it, but are asking for $1,400. Even if they have $200 of parts in there (highly unlikely), $1,400 is still way too much. Sure, there's R&D, manufacturing, overhead, etc., etc., but the profit margin on headphones is incredible. Consider that a SR-60i is profitable at $70 and that the labor, parts, costs of production, and everything else can't be more than the RS-1, at ten times the price. Sure, the mahogany is more expensive than injected molded plastic, but maybe $5 or $10 more expensive.

that's the way the luxury market works.

 

[sgrossklass]

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Originally Posted by Epicfailman /img/forum/go_quote.gif You might consider them destroyed, but the drivers work just like they did before he took them apart.

Well, in this case I'd have my doubts there. If the driver is dissected as far as shown, the whole voice coil (red part, mostly fixation lacquer I guess) would have to be rewound and attached to the membrane (or even wound in place). Has to be electrically connected as well. We're talking very very fine wire here.

 

[Epicfailman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgrossklass /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well, in this case I'd have my doubts there. If the driver is dissected as far as shown, the whole voice coil (red part, mostly fixation lacquer I guess) would have to be rewound and attached to the membrane (or even wound in place). Has to be electrically connected as well. We're talking very very fine wire here.

Keep in mind he was doing a repair to the phones here, and from what I gather it was a driver repair. So if it didn't work before the process, and it didn't work after the process, then the driver's ability to play music hasn't changed, see? Cause before and after, it can't play music.

But had he stopped at actually removing that driver cover with a working pair of drivers, then they would still be just as good as before.

 

[pistolsnipe]

yeah, there was no connection between the pads, so i tried to chase after the wire, but the wire was broke at the coil, so unless i can find someone with an observation microscope i dint think ill be able to unwrap it