Airy, Transient, Fast, Detailed, Dynamic, Energetic and some BASS

[cuiter23]

The HD800 is a bass monster if you pair it well (i.e. balanced)
 
Grab a high quality cable as well.

 

[Modwright01]

  The HD800 is a bass monster if you pair it well (i.e. balanced)
 
Grab a high quality cable as well.

 
Yeah,
 
A little cable at 500 USD, a good amp Ear Yoshino HP4 5000 USD, and you can have good bass with HD 800.
 
So easy ! Isn't it ?  

 

[sling5s]

HD800S

 

[SeaWo|f]

The LCDX are orthos though?  Orthodynamic and planarmagnetic are two names for the same technology.  

I think he was confusing orthos with electrostats and the dedicated gear to run those. Not that most of us aren't sitting next to a bunch of dedicated gear for our -regular- cans, but I digress, the stats don't have the bass.

Do those cables or amps tame the hd800 treble, because that is a significant issue there too. So many of the fans if the hd800 admit they either have to eq or switch to different cans for long sessions/some recordings/genres because of the nature of the treble.

 

[Me x3]

  The HD800 is a bass monster if you pair it well (i.e. balanced)
 
Grab a high quality cable as well.

That's like saying the K702s are bass monsters

 

[cuiter23]

   
Yeah,
 
A little cable at 500 USD, a good amp Ear Yoshino HP4 5000 USD, and you can have good bass with HD 800.
 
So easy ! Isn't it ?  

 
lol, everything is easy if you got the munz.
 

  That's like saying the K702s are bass monsters

 
I meant in terms of bass detail. The HD800 balanced out of the HDVD800 also elevates the bass quantity quite a bit. Pretty big difference running SE vs. Balanced.

 

[SeaWo|f]

I think you guys are still ignoring the bigger problem with the hd800.. The hot treble. And the problem that creates as far as the need to switch from them because of the way it wears on many listeners.

 

[WildStyle-R11]

  The LCDX are orthos though?  Orthodynamic and planarmagnetic are two names for the same technology.  

 
 

I think he was confusing orthos with electrostats and the dedicated gear to run those. Not that most of us aren't sitting next to a bunch of dedicated gear for our -regular- cans, but I digress, the stats don't have the bass.

Do those cables or amps tame the hd800 treble, because that is a significant issue there too. So many of the fans if the hd800 admit they either have to eq or switch to different cans for long sessions/some recordings/genres because of the nature of the treble.

Did not know planars had two names, pardon me, my mistake and yes I did think of the electrostats, because that is what I know strax for. That is why I couldn't figure seemed contradicting.
 
 

  Well, yeah, the X2 lacks refinament.
 
What do you mean by Grainy?

Grainy, I haven't heard them personally, but the way people describe them some have issues with treble, some have issues with mid range, some have issues with bass and it is not like people have the same kinda issue with specific "region", different people different issue, so that is why grainy came to mind. Not sure if that would be the correct term, but yes the headphone lacks any real character everything seems "shifty and lose", depending on the equipment used.


I'm trying not to go for EQ, I'm currently using the HE400i with my Marantz PM8005 (I don't have a great selection of amps, couple of fiios and Essence one, so it doesn't make a big difference if I am using 400i with my Marantz or not.) I have built in EQ I can use and if I go for 10DB+? for bass, a touch on the treble and mids and sure they sound brighter and a lot more of bass, even trough 400i handles it rather surprisingly well, there is still a sense that something is missing, there is more of excitement, but it seems to lack the more minor details. EQ is good if one day you decide to shake your brains, but other than, that I stay away from it. So I wouldn't want to get an equipment that I do not like stock, not to say that I wouldn't like HD800, but it still isn't the headphone I am looking for.


 

 

[Me x3]

DT990 Pro (cheaper and more punchy bass) has a slight boost in the Mid-bass vs HE400i, it has warm lower midrange and slightly recessed upper midrange (so the midrange is kind of warm and soft) then there's quite a lot of clear but surely boosted TREBLE that extends forever, definitely airy.

If you like some boost/extra punch in the mid bass you'll be fine with its bass. It's boosted but not HD650 slow/ laid back.

The midrange is very nice as far as you don't expect a mid-forward presentation like HD600/K702

The treble is really where things become more risky. DT990s are BRIGHT so that may rule out some of your recordings. Not a great headphone for metal winds for instance.
DT990s tend to sound just a tad smoother and more forgiving when plugged into typical receivers.

On the fence, DT990 Pro is punchy, airy, big soundstage, cheap and pair well with receivers... It might be too bright for certain recordings but there's always a trade off.

Personal preferences and recordings play a key role here and ultimately it's really hard for us to guess what you'll prefer.

 

[Me x3]

If your source is a computer and you change your mind about EQing you might consider Equilibrium or the cheaper (but still not cheap) Equality.

Best Luck!

 

[WildStyle-R11]

DT990 Pro (cheaper and more punchy bass) has a slight boost in the Mid-bass vs HE400i, it has warm lower midrange and slightly recessed upper midrange (so the midrange is kind of warm and soft) then there's quite a lot of clear but surely boosted TREBLE that extends forever, definitely airy.

If you like some boost/extra punch in the mid bass you'll be fine with its bass. It's boosted but not HD650 slow/ laid back.

The midrange is very nice as far as you don't expect a mid-forward presentation like HD600/K702

The treble is really where things become more risky. DT990s are BRIGHT so that may rule out some of your recordings. Not a great headphone for metal winds for instance.
DT990s tend to sound just a tad smoother and more forgiving when plugged into typical receivers.

On the fence, DT990 Pro is punchy, airy, big soundstage, cheap and pair well with receivers... It might be too bright for certain recordings but there's always a trade off.

Personal preferences and recordings play a key role here and ultimately it's really hard for us to guess what you'll prefer.

I do know that and that is also the problem why I have hard time finding headphones that I like so much, because as I said I listen to just about every music genre, with wide variety of of files and even youtube at times. That is why I have posted this topic, so that people just trow in recommendations as they see fit, I will go trough and see what fits the bill the most. And then ask to those that own them other things...Like LCD X current question would be how would it compare to 400i and if it is able to play wide variety of music genres well? Haven't gone deep enough yet, to know much more, all in good time.

 

[WildStyle-R11]

So I noticed DT990 Pro on Amazon in all black, on sale for 100...So I figured what the hell...Couple of first impressions, the kick of the bass is just about spot on, on some songs it is even a touch to much and on some lacking, so I'd say right where it needs to be, just not used to it. It's not as detailed as 400i so it gives me this blurred impression, the highs are hand able for me, I can definitely hear them more pronouncedly, but it still isn't nowhere near Q701's brightness levels. Trust me I used Q701 for 2 years. The mids are there, how about that? They are not recessed, they are obstructed by the bass and treble. So I'd say mids are neutral. I'm disappointed by some instruments like the more lower notes of strings instruments such as bass guitars, cellos and such kinda seem empty barrel like, is best I could describe it. Dish a ma jigs on drums are far to noticable, vocals are boring. Generally I just miss the detail of 400i or precision, well there is a price difference. Why do people call these fun? I would call them more analytical in the more steril way, rather than super detailed.(They do have detail, just not as accurate as I would like) That aside, I do like them. I might use these for gaming as I had a lot better direction audio than 400i. Yeah, after couple more songs the mids are definitely neutral on DT990 even 400i now seem lesser, I'm really **** at describing mids. I sorta want to say I hate warm mids, but that is not entirely correct to use as far as I know. Like can mids alone be described as warm and bright? Cause that is what I want to have brighter mids along with bright treble. But I can't find the right words.

Listening to Tina Guo - Iron man I must say drums sound awesome, guitars and cellos a bit distorted.

I did say it and I will stick with it, i would not describe DT990 as fun, but they are more fun than 400i's trough.

Hmm yeah headphones with bass that is on par with DT990 kick and with accuracy and detail of 400i?
Mids where they shine more brightly? (Yeah no idea how to describe it) sort off elevated.
Vocals and instruments to stand out across the board
And highs to be as bright as they can not reaching over DT990 trough.

Ahh I see it is the airyness of DT990 that gets my attention the most, apparently some vocals do stand out. Testing the DT990 on some recording I play with my speakers most. And yeah the DT's most certainly sound more like my speakers than the 400i which is sad, cause I like my 400i's.