Advise on tying parallel power supplies together and grounding for a headphone amp.
Jun 20, 2022 at 5:45 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 6

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Hi All!



I was hoping someone could give a little advice. I’ve been upgrading a hybrid tube headphone amp that has very limited space. Headphone amp is a Schiit Mjolnir 2. One of its constraints is it uses a non-regulated 6 volt supply for the tube heaters, just a simple RC network after the bridge rectifier (coming off a multi-secondary transformer). I’ve been shopping standalone, regulated circuit boards/kits/modules for tube heaters. As space is limited in the amp chassis, I was hoping to make this separately enclosed (with separate transformer) in an external case. The easiest method to do this would be to remove the bridge rectifier and caps from the 6 volt heater rail of the headphone amp (thus disabling that secondary tap of the transformer) and pipe in directly where the previous RC filter caps were (via an external port). But now we are tying two separate circuit grounds together, and two separate cases. So let me ask a few questions.

  • Would that be problematic for noise, stability?
  • Would you tie the chassis grounds together?
  • You are now unloading a secondary winding from the original multi-secondary transformer. Do I need to compensate for extra voltage/amperage the other secondary of that transformer may now have since 6 volt secondary is now unused/unloaded? Or will other secondary be unaffected?


The other method, which would be harder (and somewhat irreversible), would be to solder the external supply directly (via the external port) to the tube sockets, but then there is the problem of having to isolate those pins from the main circuit board. It might be able to be done by cutting traces/etc., but this is a 4 layer board and there may be connections or circuit trace routing I don’t know about. . There is no schematic. This method would also make it less easily reversed if I don’t like the results and wish to restore.



What do Ya’ll think? Any experience on something similar?
 
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Jun 20, 2022 at 6:35 PM Post #2 of 6
Sorry, I forgot to mention something. The purpose of this parallel supply isn’t per say to change unregulated tube heaters to regulated ones. That improvement would be incidental. Instead, I want to increase the max amperage of the filament circuit. Max current for a 6DJ8 tube is 325 mA approx. I want to be able to use 6414’s,6829's, or E180cc tubes that draw up to 425 mA each or so. So I’m trying to gain about a 1/4 Amp more heater current once both tubes accounted for, to add flexibility in tubes I can use with my headphone amp.
 
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Jul 27, 2022 at 7:49 AM Post #3 of 6
Sorry, I forgot to mention something. The purpose of this parallel supply isn’t per say to change unregulated tube heaters to regulated ones. That improvement would be incidental. Instead, I want to increase the max amperage of the filament circuit. Max current for a 6DJ8 tube is 325 mA approx. I want to be able to use 6414’s,6829's, or E180cc tubes that draw up to 425 mA each or so. So I’m trying to gain about a 1/4 Amp more heater current once both tubes accounted for, to add flexibility in tubes I can use with my headphone amp.
You need to be more specific. I'm having trouble finding detailed information on the Schiit Mjolnir. Have they stopped making it? I have one pic from a Mjolnir 2 (Mjolnir 1 appears to be 100% solid-state) that shows two PCB-mounted transformers with what appears to be at least 3 different voltage supplies. If this is correct, I'm afraid there may be a lot more involved in what you're proposing.
 
Jul 27, 2022 at 10:43 PM Post #4 of 6
Hi Tomb! You are correct in that there are multi-transformers with multi taps each. The transformer the fillaments are tapped from seem to also supply the high voltage rail (approx 200V) and plus and minus 12V rails.
 
Jul 27, 2022 at 10:48 PM Post #5 of 6
Can transformers be paralleled?what happens if one has slightly more or less voltage than the other?
 
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