Abbingdon Music Research DP-777 Thread
Oct 6, 2014 at 4:43 PM Post #331 of 571


AMR/iFI @ Rocky Mountain Audio Fest – don’t you wish your Skunkworks was hot like ours?


We have the brand new Retro line which includes the Stereo 50 and the LS3.5 Both are ground-up designs from the Oct-DSD512 onboard DAC to the EL84 all tube amplifier. Even the drivers in the LS3.5 are brand new and design by/for iFi!


 


 

More details in the coming weeks and the global launch might have a sprinkle of Factor X.
Here is it in action in the Netherlands week at a new iFi store opening.
http://ifi-audio.com/audio_blog/look-mom-no-wires-mobile-nas/

 
Our parent company, AMR is not to be missed and the DP-777 Special Edition will be showcased at RMAF.


 

 
A little more detail here:
http://ifi-audio.com/audio_blog/amrifi-rocky-mountain-audio-fest-dont-you-wish-your-skunkworks-was-hot-like-ours/

 
Jude did a little preview here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/731471/2014-canjam-rmaf-october-10-12-2014-the-canjam-exhibitor-list-has-been-finalized-and-what-a-lineup/195#post_10935857
 
Fast-forward to 37.50!
 
See you at RMAF.
 
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Oct 7, 2014 at 5:05 AM Post #332 of 571
What about the upgrades?  Does the upgrade include all of the below as well?
 
1. AMR Tri-Core Silver output capacitors
2. GE 5670 tubes (with adapters)
3. Quad-Core Digital Engine*
4. Additional clock buffers to lower system’s intrinsic jitter even further*
5. Re-optimised Clocking arrangement*
6. Latest XMOS interface with proprietary customised firmware*
7. Completely re-designed 4-layer gold-plated circuits boards)
 
Oct 7, 2014 at 11:14 AM Post #333 of 571
I spoke to Darren Censullo, the US distributor, again today. Obviously the promised SE upgrade has dragged on for a long time. He said that the SE is quite a bit more extensive than originally envisioned and essentially changes everything inside the chassis. He said he expected the original DP-777 to be upgradeable with all the features on the list in the prior post. The unit must be sent in for him to work on it due to the extensive nature of the upgrade. He doesn't have a price yet, but said that it should be around UD$1500. Later, a MK II version will be offered with DSD. The SE will be upgradable to the Mk II at the time, at least as he has heard it. The DSD coding will take a long while to get right, so they wanted to offer the SE with the other improvements now so we don't have to wait for the full DSD Mk II. If all this works according to plan, there should be a good upgrade plan from original to SE to Mk II without having to sell one's old unit and buy a completely new one.
 
Darren sent me a six-page PDF with press release and detailed technical description, but this forum doesn't seem to allow me to post a PDF here. If anyone knows how to, let me know. (And, please, don't everyone request a private emailing :wink: Let's see if we can post this somehow. Can someone recommend a host?).
 
Oct 7, 2014 at 7:52 PM Post #334 of 571
  I spoke to Darren Censullo, the US distributor, again today. Obviously the promised SE upgrade has dragged on for a long time. He said that the SE is quite a bit more extensive than originally envisioned and essentially changes everything inside the chassis. He said he expected the original DP-777 to be upgradeable with all the features on the list in the prior post. The unit must be sent in for him to work on it due to the extensive nature of the upgrade. He doesn't have a price yet, but said that it should be around UD$1500. Later, a MK II version will be offered with DSD. The SE will be upgradable to the Mk II at the time, at least as he has heard it. The DSD coding will take a long while to get right, so they wanted to offer the SE with the other improvements now so we don't have to wait for the full DSD Mk II. If all this works according to plan, there should be a good upgrade plan from original to SE to Mk II without having to sell one's old unit and buy a completely new one.
 
Darren sent me a six-page PDF with press release and detailed technical description, but this forum doesn't seem to allow me to post a PDF here. If anyone knows how to, let me know. (And, please, don't everyone request a private emailing :wink: Let's see if we can post this somehow. Can someone recommend a host?).


Sharing via DropBox would be good enough. Or something like Uploaded.to?
 
Anyway, I've talked to person directly from AMR and, joy oh joy, those guys roll their own capacitors. Now ain't that something? Anyway, waiting impatiently for this device.
 
Oct 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM Post #336 of 571
  I spoke to Darren Censullo, the US distributor, again today. Obviously the promised SE upgrade has dragged on for a long time. He said that the SE is quite a bit more extensive than originally envisioned and essentially changes everything inside the chassis. He said he expected the original DP-777 to be upgradeable with all the features on the list in the prior post. The unit must be sent in for him to work on it due to the extensive nature of the upgrade. He doesn't have a price yet, but said that it should be around UD$1500. Later, a MK II version will be offered with DSD. The SE will be upgradable to the Mk II at the time, at least as he has heard it. The DSD coding will take a long while to get right, so they wanted to offer the SE with the other improvements now so we don't have to wait for the full DSD Mk II. If all this works according to plan, there should be a good upgrade plan from original to SE to Mk II without having to sell one's old unit and buy a completely new one.

 
Darren sent me a six-page PDF with press release and detailed technical description, but this forum doesn't seem to allow me to post a PDF here. If anyone knows how to, let me know. (And, please, don't everyone request a private emailing :wink: Let's see if we can post this somehow. Can someone recommend a host?).


Hi,
 
This is all pretty much correct.
 
Originally the SE was:
 
1. AMR capacitors
2. Quad Core Digital Engine
3. GE5670 tubes.
 
The Main pcb was to stay the same.
 
BUT, we all the work we did on the iFi micro and nano line, we just had to put it into the DP-777. We dont just make boxes to shift them and if we could do it better, then we always take our time and do it that way, no compromise.
 
We do apologise for the delay but hope you understand that now, the DP-777 is a ground-up new machine with new Main PCB, Digital Engine and USB module. AND it SHOULD be future-proofed for DSD upgrade later on (though obviously, we cant make 100% cast-iron guarantee).
 
We only launch something major if we can do it to the very best of our ability.
 
Thanks for your patience - we do appreciate it has been some time but we wanted to "trickle-up" the technology from iFi > AMR.
 
The proof is in the listening.
 
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Oct 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM Post #337 of 571
 
Hi,
 
This is all pretty much correct.
 
Originally the SE was:
 
1. AMR capacitors
2. Quad Core Digital Engine
3. GE5670 tubes.
 
The Main pcb was to stay the same.
 
BUT, we all the work we did on the iFi micro and nano line, we just had to put it into the DP-777. We dont just make boxes to shift them and if we could do it better, then we always take our time and do it that way, no compromise.
 
We do apologise for the delay but hope you understand that now, the DP-777 is a ground-up new machine with new Main PCB, Digital Engine and USB module. AND it SHOULD be future-proofed for DSD upgrade later on (though obviously, we cant make 100% cast-iron guarantee).
 
We only launch something major if we can do it to the very best of our ability.
 
Thanks for your patience - we do appreciate it has been some time but we wanted to "trickle-up" the technology from iFi > AMR.
 
The proof is in the listening.


Thank you very much! That clears things here. Let's wait and see what Thorsten did this time.
 
Oct 9, 2014 at 3:30 AM Post #338 of 571
 
Hi,
 
This is all pretty much correct.
 
Originally the SE was:
 
1. AMR capacitors
2. Quad Core Digital Engine
3. GE5670 tubes.
 
The Main pcb was to stay the same.
 
BUT, we all the work we did on the iFi micro and nano line, we just had to put it into the DP-777. We dont just make boxes to shift them and if we could do it better, then we always take our time and do it that way, no compromise.
 
We do apologise for the delay but hope you understand that now, the DP-777 is a ground-up new machine with new Main PCB, Digital Engine and USB module. AND it SHOULD be future-proofed for DSD upgrade later on (though obviously, we cant make 100% cast-iron guarantee).
 
We only launch something major if we can do it to the very best of our ability.
 
Thanks for your patience - we do appreciate it has been some time but we wanted to "trickle-up" the technology from iFi > AMR.
 
The proof is in the listening.

 
 
Which capacitors are you talking about exactly?  I have the Duelund Black Cast Capacitors, surly they won't be getting replace - correct?
 
Oct 9, 2014 at 6:51 AM Post #339 of 571
 
Hi,
 
This is all pretty much correct.
 
Originally the SE was:
 
1. AMR capacitors
2. Quad Core Digital Engine
3. GE5670 tubes.
 
The Main pcb was to stay the same.
 
BUT, we all the work we did on the iFi micro and nano line, we just had to put it into the DP-777. We dont just make boxes to shift them and if we could do it better, then we always take our time and do it that way, no compromise.
 
We do apologise for the delay but hope you understand that now, the DP-777 is a ground-up new machine with new Main PCB, Digital Engine and USB module. AND it SHOULD be future-proofed for DSD upgrade later on (though obviously, we cant make 100% cast-iron guarantee).
 
We only launch something major if we can do it to the very best of our ability.
 
Thanks for your patience - we do appreciate it has been some time but we wanted to "trickle-up" the technology from iFi > AMR.
 
The proof is in the listening.

Hello ifi,
 
I already have the quad core board installed - will I be able to get the rest of the upgrades installed for a cost or do I need to purchase a new DAC?
 
Cheers,
 
gav.
 
Oct 9, 2014 at 7:16 AM Post #340 of 571
Dear ifi audio,

On my DP-777 inputs 1 and 2 stopped working in the middle of playback, first input 1 and now, a couple weeks later input 2 as well.

While this is covered by my warranty and my dealer offers a repair if I send the DAC to him, wouldn't it be wise to wait for the upgrade to be available, so I'd have to ship the machine just once and not twice?

After all it's not clear which parts exactly have to be repaired and perhaps some parts are going to be changed for the upgrade anyway?

I can still use the DAC via input 4.

Cheers
 
Oct 17, 2014 at 4:56 PM Post #341 of 571
Dear ifi audio,

On my DP-777 inputs 1 and 2 stopped working in the middle of playback, first input 1 and now, a couple weeks later input 2 as well.

While this is covered by my warranty and my dealer offers a repair if I send the DAC to him, wouldn't it be wise to wait for the upgrade to be available, so I'd have to ship the machine just once and not twice?

After all it's not clear which parts exactly have to be repaired and perhaps some parts are going to be changed for the upgrade anyway?

I can still use the DAC via input 4.

Cheers


Dear 3 audio,
 
If ONLY inputs 1 and 2 do not work, then it is most likely the Valve Digital Input tube. The 6H11p tube.
 
http://amr-audio.co.uk/html/dp777_specifications.html
 
Can you contact your retailer to help you source and replace this tube?
 
Or you can email tech@amr-audio.co.uk with your name, location etc.
 
Thanks.
 
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Nov 1, 2014 at 6:52 AM Post #343 of 571
Very very interesting thread.  
 
I will now also consider this AMR DP777 against other more expensive DACs to feed my Eddie Current 4-45 tube amp.  
 
This may save me quite a lot of money since the AMR DP777 is cheaper than the other DACs that I was considering  
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Indeed, the DACs that I was considering to go With my EC445 are : NAGRA HD DAC or TAD DA-1000 or Lampizator or Total DAC D1 or the Berkley alpha DAC Reference serie but this last one is NOT imported in the EU :frowning2:
 
 
EDIT: I just read that there is a new SE edition, that seems to be a major upgrade to the original 777 !.  
 
-->Will it replace the original 777 ?  What will be the price of the 777SE ?   And has someone already tested/heard the 777SE versus the 777 ? 
 
 
777 Special Edition: Ground-breaking technology

AMR is very proud to announce the launch of the 777 Special Edition or “SE” series. The SE series benefits from a raft of not evolutionary, but revolutionary revisions that take the sonic performance of each model into a whole new realm. Bass is deeper and more powerful, there is more air in the treble, background is darker with an overall improved resolution.

The revisions are as follows:

1. AMR Tri-Core Silver output capacitors
2. GE 5670 tubes (with adapters)
3. Quad-Core Digital Engine*
4. Additional clock buffers to lower system’s intrinsic jitter even further*
5. Re-optimised Clocking arrangement*
6. Latest XMOS interface with proprietary customised firmware*
7. Completely re-designed 4-layer gold-plated circuits boards)


 
Nov 1, 2014 at 11:42 AM Post #344 of 571
They have taken an awful long time to release this new version.  Some are getting very impatient and moving on to other offerings - while some are waiting very patiently.  
 
Nov 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM Post #345 of 571
  They have taken an awful long time to release this new version.  Some are getting very impatient and moving on to other offerings - while some are waiting very patiently.  

 
But... is the DP-777SE shipping now ?  will it replace the original DP-777 ? 
 

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