A new high end DAC in town....
Apr 28, 2018 at 6:14 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 7

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Aries Cerat Kassandra Ref II NOS tubed DAC

I recently changed my DAC, and thought I would start a thread talking about this brand here. Not many will have heard of Aries Cerat (based in Cyprus). I came across them via some buddies who owned the same Audio Note DAC 5 model I had until recently. It is a superb high end audio manufacturer, fairly new on the scene circa 2011, but already gained many best of show and audio awards.


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I have been in the hobby at a decent level for 20 years+ and have had incremental improvements along the way. Some things have surprised me a bit, mainly it’s been a slow upward direction over the years.

Right from the first song I played on the DAC, it shocked me. It was very different to what I have heard before or had in my system. My previous DAC was the Audio Note DAC 5 Special (circa 30K new, mine was used) but with Duelund copper cast caps on the line board. That DAC was until then the best I have heard at home, nearest to my ‘ideal’. While I owned that DAC, I also had the CH Precision C1 on a day long demo, the Chord DAVE, the Lampizator Golden Gate (think it was 2017 spec), the Naim CD555 (used example), MSB Platinum and various others. Some of these DACs did some things very well, detail, soundstage etc,. But I always got bored. It was really only the DAC 5 that had my attention for most of that period.

Enter the Aries Cerat Kassandra Ref II.
I have been following this DAC for some time. It has some of the design ideas I find interesting such as Non Oversampling, the excellent AD1865 chip (but 16 of them), I/V stage using transformers, tube gain stage, output transformers. It also has a very healthy gain stage design with the E280F ’super tube by Siemens with very low output impedance. My DAC 5 was 1.8v output and 300 ohms, the Kassandra is 10v on 55 ohms, or 6v on 12 ohms - a very good gain stage indeed I thought.

Then those huge capacitors, none of the typical weedy caps in many Dacs here, big mains transformer, huge output transformers. The DAC is BIG, 60 kilos and 540mm wide x 520mm deep, 165mm high.

Anyway, this was all a taster for things to come. When the Kassandra arrived, I was apprehensive. Would it live up to my expectations? Maybe slightly better than my DAC 5? Well - it was a revelation I can tell you, hand on heart, a fantastic sound. I was very happy as you can tell.

I’ll try and detail my impressions of the sound below

1. The very first bar on one of my favourite test tracks (some EDM) it was obvious, this thing is on another level to anything I have heard before. The amount of information coming right at my listening position incredible. I have heard this level of detail in other ‘modern’ Dacs such as the CH, but not with this level of realism, the flow of the music, so smooth and solid, really 3D, and very unlike any digital I heard. The timbre and texture of instruments, I don’t know how Stavros did it, but he has managed to get so much detail out of this Dac without the usual digital payoffs of thin and flat dynamics and a generally cold presentation. It does remind me of the better turntables and how they carry so much body and energy with the music AND detail.

2. The punch and drive to the speakers, it is an iron grip and super charged, really big dynamics. It isn't fake or false either, it just sounds hard wired, nearer live music in energy. The Zingalis are flying off the stands I am not kidding. I can listen to everything going on at a low level without difficulty, but playing a bit louder, it is addictive. There are part of the music, tracks I am very familiar with that fly out at you, as though there is another layer revealed, and all this information is stacked up as separate entities. In other words, I can so much more even when the music is very busy, nothing seems to faze it.

3. The bass goes so low and has so much texture, my listening room is energised. It has an iron grip on my speakers, as though I have upgraded my power amplifier as well. Obviously the pot is a lot lower for the same volume now with 10v line out, but it also seems to drive and thrust the bass energy with limitless power. I get the feeling my previous Dac was strangled for power, as though it was on it’s limit. The Kassandra seems to be just ticking over, like a big American Muscle Car, tons of torque on tap for instantaneous response to the music.

4. The midrange at first seemed more forward than I was used to, but after a few hours it settled. After a few more weeks of running in the Dac, and getting used to the sound, I find vocals in all types of music sound very natural. I used to hear a lot of female vocals that were a bit pitchy, possibly over processed in the studio, but on this Dac this is no longer an issue. I have no idea why, but the mids are creamy smooth and very detailed indeed. On the LCD4s which already have a superb midrange, the sound of female vocals is just perfect.

5. The treble, oh my. My love / hate thing with digital since I bought my first CD player right back the 1980s. The Kassandra nails it to me. Vocals are very very smooth and natural, the detail is all there, but it has no extra edges or emphasis. Female vocals have no pitching on the chorus. It is all very natural to my ears. Beyonce, amazing. After a few weeks, I think it is even better here. I also bought 2 x Golden Dragon tube rings. Note how close my Dac is to the right speaker.

So, super super happy with this beast. It is huge, and doesn’t let you forget it is in your system either, it has totally changed my system for the better. I always thought the source is so important, and the Kassandra confirms that to me. It also confirms that not al Dacs sound alike, far from it in fact…..

I can say Stavros is the real deal.
Very highly recommended. It is not easy to demo it, I bought it blind! Ha Ha, yes I know, crazy. But I did talk to some AC owners first, it gave me some confidence. But I am so happy I did risk that. There are dealers in the EU and a new one in the UK, and Joshua in Texas. Feel free to PM me if you want more info, I seem to be glued to my listening chair at the moment LOL.

BTW the build quality is excellent, as good as the CH Precision but obviously bigger and heavier as well. The faceplate for example, it is engraved in thick smoked glass. Normally that would be printed (cheaper). The source readouts are tubes that glow behind the front panel, it looks fantastic. Thick stainless steel plates for the chassis, no thin bent mild steel sheet here. The graphics are bold on the top plates, I think it works great. I can see the LEDs and tubes glowing inside. On a night it looks superb. Even the back plate with big connections is first rate finish. I can’t fault it. It is even better in the flesh than the photos on the Aries Carat website.
 
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Apr 28, 2018 at 10:12 AM Post #2 of 7
Nice board layout....I know it is subjective...but, damn that is an ugly case.
 
Apr 29, 2018 at 6:41 AM Post #3 of 7
Thanks for the review, however, this should probably be in the "High-end" section, as this DAC is around 18,000 Euro, correct?

Here is an older thread for this component:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/aries-cerat-kassandra-ii-mk2-dac.776873/

They say "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder", and, while I generally believe that to be true, the Beholder may need corrective lenses, in this particular case. Yowza!
 
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May 1, 2018 at 5:32 AM Post #5 of 7
The appearance is subjective. In the flesh it looks great IMO. A break from the usual aluminium faceplate and bland chassis. There is logic to the chassis design, as it supports all the weight and avoids microphonics, important in all cases, more so when you have tubes of course, and something ignored by many manufacturers IMO.

Before this I had the Audio Note DAC 5 and that was a 30K unit made with bent mild steel plate and thin top plate. This thing is very well built. As I said, the sound is the best I have heard to date. Beats the CH Precision, Dave, Golden Gate, MSB and many others I have heard so far. It is definitely worth the price point. I'll put up some more pics of the power supply section under the front top plate. That area is jammed with more huge transformers and multiple big caps. Under the big digital board there is also 2 huge outputs transformers. My 10+ year hunt for my end game DAC is over - and it has endorsed what I always thought, DACs don't all sound the same.....
 
May 1, 2018 at 9:31 AM Post #6 of 7
DAC don’t all sound the same. If the alternated sound performances or signatures are observed from the different amplifiers, then DAC has it even more diverse. But everybody can just use the term “because it sound good” according to the price, and it automatically be the best equipment they ever heard, easily
 
May 1, 2018 at 3:33 PM Post #7 of 7
DAC don’t all sound the same. If the alternated sound performances or signatures are observed from the different amplifiers, then DAC has it even more diverse. But everybody can just use the term “because it sound good” according to the price, and it automatically be the best equipment they ever heard, easily

I have had 2K DAC that sounded great such as my first Audio Note Kit 3.1 DAC. The DAVE was also good and at 8k is worth that price IMO. The Esoteric K-01 at 16K+ (albeit CDP as well) was NOT worth the price, nor is the higher priced D1. So agree, some DACs are big money and are not up to scratch, I am very sensitive to that, and why I built some kit DACs and modded them with nice parts and NOS tubes, it equated to superb performance on a tight budget.

The Kassandra cuts through all this. It beats my Audio Note DAC 5 soundly and that retails at 30K, also beats soundly the CH precision C1 which costs 18K without the X1. It could easily retail at 30K and still be competitive IMO, if we are looking at price brackets. Performance doesn't always relate to price, and I am the first to jump in a say so if I heard or owned a DAC that is not up to it at it's price point. I heard the MSB Platinum IV with the best PS and other 'upgrades'. I can't remember how much that retailed at, but it left me cold.

If I was in the sub 10K bracket I would say the DAVE is hard to beat, as is the TotalDAC Dual.

YMMV and all in my own opinion based on my ears.

Hope this helps someone.....
 
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