$700 amp + dac for HD600?
May 16, 2015 at 1:08 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

jordannn15

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 9, 2014
Posts
579
Likes
29
I am looking for a good amp + dac combo to pair with my HD600 for $700. Will obviously be using these at home so no portable options please. The first two combos that I thought of were either the Schiit Bitfrost + Schiit Asgard 2 or the Schiit Modi (optical) + Schiit Valhalla 2.
 
May 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM Post #2 of 10

tomb

Member of the Trade: Beezar.com
Joined
Mar 1, 2006
Posts
10,513
Likes
743
JMHO, but I would stay away from the Valhalla or any other OTL amp.  Tubes + output transformers are noticeably more transparent than the "fog" of output coupling capacitors.  OTL's are OK for a start (BH Crack) but long-term, not the best pairing you can get if you're pursuing tubes.  With solid-state, look for something that has a wide voltage swing, not necessarily the latest-greatest-ultra-low-output-impedance transistorized swizzle-sizzle-sounding amp.
 
May 16, 2015 at 10:51 PM Post #3 of 10

jordannn15

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 9, 2014
Posts
579
Likes
29
  JMHO, but I would stay away from the Valhalla or any other OTL amp.  Tubes + output transformers are noticeably more transparent than the "fog" of output coupling capacitors.  OTL's are OK for a start (BH Crack) but long-term, not the best pairing you can get if you're pursuing tubes.  With solid-state, look for something that has a wide voltage swing, not necessarily the latest-greatest-ultra-low-output-impedance transistorized swizzle-sizzle-sounding amp.

 
Okay, thanks for the information. Which one would you recommend since you say the BH Crack is a starter? I'm new to this, usually just buy schiit.
 
May 17, 2015 at 2:30 AM Post #4 of 10

inthere

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 11, 2012
Posts
2,473
Likes
709
HD 600 doesn't need that much power, instead of getting a stack get in Aune T1 mk2 Tube DAC/amp for about $165 and get an AWESOME tube. (I got a Phillips E188CC=7308) 
 
May 17, 2015 at 4:34 AM Post #6 of 10

inthere

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 11, 2012
Posts
2,473
Likes
709
Better clarity and separation, but slightly less bass, still very warm though. I'm thinking of getting a Telefunken 6922. Look up the Aune T1 Mk2
 
May 17, 2015 at 9:38 AM Post #7 of 10

jordannn15

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 9, 2014
Posts
579
Likes
29
Better clarity and separation, but slightly less bass, still very warm though. I'm thinking of getting a Telefunken 6922. Look up the Aune T1 Mk2


I looked it up and it is surprisingly cheap (price), there isn't something better I can get for a budget of $700? Does the aune T1 Mk2 come with a usb cable? I have a nice optical cable that I was going to use to connect the dac to my pc. Thanks!
 
May 17, 2015 at 10:05 AM Post #8 of 10

tomb

Member of the Trade: Beezar.com
Joined
Mar 1, 2006
Posts
10,513
Likes
743
 
Better clarity and separation, but slightly less bass, still very warm though. I'm thinking of getting a Telefunken 6922. Look up the Aune T1 Mk2


I looked it up and it is surprisingly cheap (price), there isn't something better I can get for a budget of $700? Does the aune T1 Mk2 come with a usb cable? I have a nice optical cable that I was going to use to connect the dac to my pc. Thanks!

 
Is there something better you can get for $700?  Of course.
 
The Aune has a great following, but give me a break.  It's a toy compared to how much you're willing to spend.  The HD600 was once among the world's greatest headphones.  It can take ever-increasing quality of amplifiers and respond with improvements.
 
The problem is your question in the first place.  It's like saying you have $30K and then asking anyone in the world what kind of car you should buy.  The responses will run the gamut.  I suggest you do more research on your own.  Read the amp section here in Head-Fi, look at innerfidelity.com, etc.
 
BTW, you may have better results using SPDIF rather than an optical cable, but that's a digression better served over in the Source section of Head-Fi.
 
May 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM Post #9 of 10

inthere

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Apr 11, 2012
Posts
2,473
Likes
709
Well, you can definitely spend more money. Whether you get better quality is debatable. 
 
For instance, you can get a Woo WA6 for $699, but with the stock tube would you trust it to sound better than a Aune with a $300 Telefunken tube? I wouldn't. I don't even trust it to sound better than an Aune with a nice Phillips. My $1200 Silver Anniversary Earmax Pro uses 3 tubes, but if I use stock tubes the Aune sounds better. 
 
Bifrost is double the price of my Aune, but for my preferred stack I'll use the Aune in front of the Asgard 2. For playback, I even pass up my $6995 Metric Halo ULN-8 and my $5000 Prism Orpheus Audio interfaces in favor of my tube options. Of course those are pro interfaces but if you want to spend money just to do it go ahead. 
 
Just saying quality lines are not so clear cut in the amp/DAC market because of across the board improvement. EVERYTHING sounds really good now. 
 
Headphone market you still get a noticeable jump in quality at about the $600+ mark. 
 
Amps everything under $1000 is very competitive
 
May 17, 2015 at 12:27 PM Post #10 of 10

adtrance

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 28, 2015
Posts
200
Likes
32
Meier Audio Corda Jazz & Modi 2 Uber (using optical) pairs perfectly for my HD600's.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/574391/review-of-meier-audio-corda-jazz 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/products/schiit-modi-2-uber 
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top