2009 College Football Thread

[woof37]

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Originally Posted by wanderman /img/forum/go_quote.gif orange you glad I didn't say YELLOW JACEKTS

Not really, because I would have liked to hear you pronounce that.

 

[woof37]

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif Texas got a gift with that win in last minute of game, two huge penalties and a clock reset........ TCU is getting the shaft, they would have scored 30+ points on Nebraska and won easily, they would beat Texas straight up. The system/media is biased to keep the historical best teams on top and ignore the outsiders....... This is not the best NC game possible, 3 very good undefeated teams getting no respect being left out, after seeing all games I think TCU is best team in college today

Undefeated doesn't mean anything if your SOS is horrible. But we won't go down that road again.

You're assuming that TCU would have been at the top of their game. Texas did not bring their A game on offense, or even their B or C game. If anything, it proves to me how absolutely ridiculous their D is. Bama is a classic SEC run-to-set-up-pass & playaction team. McElroy won't beat you with his legs, Saturday afternoon notwithstanding, and if you think Bama is going to rip UT's defense like that, you are on potent prescription meds and I wish you'd share some with me. Bama was just zoned in against a familiar opponent. TCU just doesn't have the talent level that Bama or Texas have. Going 12-0 in the Mountain West just means you can rip a bunch of lousy teams, as you should.

Great teams win close games when they're not firing on all cylinders. Texas and Bama both did that this year. It's the ideal NC game. I can't wait to see it.

 

[DarkAngel]

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Originally Posted by woof37 /img/forum/go_quote.gif TCU just doesn't have the talent level that Bama or Texas have. Going 12-0 in the Mountain West just means you can rip a bunch of lousy teams, as you should.

That is so wrong..........but you are entitled to your opinions
Bama got beat 31-17 in Sugar Bowl by Utah last year, was that a fluke?

The BCS is doing everything they can to keep the outsiders from getting respect playing the big boys..........
TCU vs Boise bowl game

 

[PhilS]

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif The BCS is doing everything they can to keep the outsiders from getting respect playing the big boys.......... TCU vs Boise bowl game

I am normally an apologist for the majors, but I agree that it is a real shame that they matched up TCU and Boise State. Given that we can't have what we really need to decide who is the best and how teams really rank (i.e., a playoff), it would have been nice to seem them put TCU and Boise State against two teams from major conferences to see how they stack up. It would have made two games more interesting, and also provided some useful information for the future about how all the conferences can be compared. But that would make too much sense, I guess. Man, the BCS system, and the way they run it, has got to be one of the most screwed up things in a major sport.

 

[woof37]

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif That is so wrong..........but you are entitled to your opinions Bama got beat 31-17 in Sugar Bowl by Utah last year, was that a fluke? The BCS is doing everything they can to keep the outsiders from getting respect playing the big boys.......... TCU vs Boise bowl game

Bama v Utah? Yes, it was a fluke. Bama had their bowl game already last year.

The BCS is ensuring that good teams in putrid conferences don't end up playing for a national championship. That's the way it should be. Don't complain about scheduling practices of the BCS conferences if you support a non-BCS conference. It's the only way they can protect themselves from "I ran the table against the likes of New Mexico State and UTEP" University du jour.

Forgot to address your last point...now that I do somewhat agree upon, TCU and Boise I mean. Sure a convenient way to deflect criticism when you let two non-BCS programs beat up on each other.

 

[RayfromTX]

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Originally Posted by PhilS /img/forum/go_quote.gif P.S. You certainly seem to have some issue with the guy. I don't get it.

I think he gets more credit than he is due. He has great athletic ability and can get his team fired up. What he lacks is maturity and humility. He is credited with being a great leader. After the loss he was consoled by many on camera. I didn't see him consoling his team mates or leading them to keep their heads held high. Instead he appeared to be feeling sorry for himself. That is the issue I have with him. He has been blessed with many gifts, opportunities and accomplishments. Last night he seemed to forget where those things come from. Jordan Shipley is a better leader in my opinion. I'm done with this subject. I did not intend to stir a hornets nest with my comment.

 

[Skylab]

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif The BCS is doing everything they can to keep the outsiders from getting respect playing the big boys.......... TCU vs Boise bowl game

Yep - brilliant move by BCS officials in preserving the integrity of the BCS - by matching these two up, they prevent a LOT of potential questions. This is no surprise at all. They have it wired. And by matching Cincy with UF, the toughest at-large team, they are clearly hoping that they end up with just two unbeaten teams at the end, one of them the TCU-BSU winner, and the NCG winner.

I will say this - as long as UF beats Cincy, there will be no doubt in my mind that the Bama-UT winner is #1. If Cincy beats UF handily, OTOH...

 

[DarkAngel]

Sky
Even more disgusting thing about this cowardly move by BCS is that TCU vs Boise St match up was played last year at 2008 Poinsettia Bowl! Makes no sense to play same game again other than preserve status quo

The system/media does everything posssible to continue the historical dominance of big boys and squelch anything that might upset the cart and give fans a real idea how good teams really are..........

BCS will say.....
This is great because we end up with fewest number of unbeaten teams after bowls......
Yes and likewise answer no questions as to the relative strength of TCU or Boise compared to big schools thus continuing entrenched dominance of big schools, avioding any possible conflict to refute this dogma
like:
2008 Utah beats Bama
2007 Boise beats Oklahoma

 

[ronnielee54]

Have to agree with not liking the TCU vs BSU matchup. Problem is because of contractural obligations it had to be. The other BCS games were locked in with a specific BCS conference. That is the biggest problem I have with the system. I don't think the matchup was a last minute deal to save face. It was the only way both teams could go to a BCS game. It is a shame though because I for one would liked to seen maybe a BSU vs GT and TCU vs OhSU matchup. I think it would have been much better.

 

[ronnielee54]

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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif I will say this - as long as UF beats Cincy, there will be no doubt in my mind that the Bama-UT winner is #1. If Cincy beats UF handily, OTOH...

That is not at all out of the realm of possibility. But I guarantee you they can't go down 21 points and then come back against the Gators and do it.

 

[ronnielee54]

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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif Northwestern is going to play Auburn in the Outback Bowl Jan 1. COOL!

As long as ya'll are ready for trick plays ya'll should do pretty good. Their OC used to be ours. He has more trick plays up his sleeve than anyone I have ever seen. I especially liked the suprise onside kick against Bama. Totaly caught them off guard.

 

[DarkAngel]

I would love to see TCU vs Texas........I take TCU straight up

We need a college playoff system...........

 

[Skylab]

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Originally Posted by ronnielee54 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Have to agree with not liking the TCU vs BSU matchup. Problem is because of contractural obligations it had to be. The other BCS games were locked in with a specific BCS conference. That is the biggest problem I have with the system. I don't think the matchup was a last minute deal to save face. It was the only way both teams could go to a BCS game. It is a shame though because I for one would liked to seen maybe a BSU vs GT and TCU vs OhSU matchup. I think it would have been much better.

Pretty sure they could have matched up GaTech vs BSU and Cincy vs TCU. That would have been a little better. Then Iowa would have played UF.

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Originally Posted by ronnielee54 /img/forum/go_quote.gif That is not at all out of the realm of possibility. But I guarantee you they can't go down 21 points and then come back against the Gators and do it.

Agreed - Cincy will score on UF, but UF will clearly also score on Cincy. A lot. So the Bearcats will have to keep pace.

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Originally Posted by ronnielee54 /img/forum/go_quote.gif As long as ya'll are ready for trick plays ya'll should do pretty good. Their OC used to be ours. He has more trick plays up his sleeve than anyone I have ever seen. I especially liked the suprise onside kick against Bama. Totaly caught them off guard.

Yeah, the good news is our kids are smart and play disciplined. We haven't played an SEC team since we got beat by Peyton Manning's Vols in the 1996 Citrus Bowl. But we have a good passing attack, and Auburn isn't particularly good at defending the pass. Our D has been getting better, and we'll have everyone healthy - so we have a shot. I will say this - I would sure rather play Auburn than play Miami FL like Wisco has to in the Champs Sports, or LSU like Penn State has to in the Capital One, so I am very happy about where we landed.

 

[ronnielee54]

Well I guess were off to Memphis to play Eastern Carolina. Don't know anything at all about them except they upset Houston and there head coach is the son of a former head coach of ours (I think thats right).

Sky, facing LSU may not have been that bad. All it takes is a good defense. We almost beat them and our defense is not that great.

As far as Cinn vs TCU, I would much rather have seen TCU face the Gators than Cinn. I think it would have proven more (also think TCU would have had a better shot).

 

[virometal]

The Sooners are set to face Stanford in the Sun bowl. Greeeeeeeat, they won't give a crap and the Cardinal will storm out like it's the Super Bowl. I foresee another OU bowl loss on the horizon, just another reason bowl results don't convince me of anything.