2.7 ohm speakers on a Pioneer receiver?

Dec 4, 2016 at 6:16 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

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So recently I found a pair of good old 5.1 setup, those Sony home theatre all in one thingy. I really like them, they do sound quite nice but they need a new receiver 'cause reasons I'm too lazy to type this late a night heh.
I'm thinking of getting a Pioneer VSX 920 but I just found out that the speakers have an impedance rating of 2.7 ohms.
Does this mean the speakers wont work with the the receiver then? And I am on a fairly limited budget and that's why I'm opting for a used VSX 920.
Any tips on what I can do?
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM Post #2 of 16
What's the receiver specify its output for? Probably like 4-8 ohms, if not 8 ohms and up?

It would probably work if the volume was low, but keep a very close eye on the receiver - it may heat up quite a bit, or it may just throw protection, or both. Generally this is one of the issues with taking speakers out of an HTIB package - they sometimes are low impedance and that presents an issue if you want to swap in a more conventional receiver/amplifier. :o
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 12:28 PM Post #3 of 16
What's the receiver specify its output for? Probably like 4-8 ohms, if not 8 ohms and up?

It would probably work if the volume was low, but keep a very close eye on the receiver - it may heat up quite a bit, or it may just throw protection, or both. Generally this is one of the issues with taking speakers out of an HTIB package - they sometimes are low impedance and that presents an issue if you want to swap in a more conventional receiver/amplifier.
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Just now I got the VSX-922 for a cheaper price so went with that. This is what it says on its datasheet:
150 W/ch (6 ohms 1 kHz 1 % 1ch Driven) › 105 W/ch (20 Hz – 20 kHz, THD 0.09 % @ 8 ohms FTC).
So all the info we get is apparently that it plays 6 ohms per channel? 
And I've read something about increasing the impedance load on the receiver (like increasing the load from the speakers if you understood that better). I think it's something with connecting speakers together then to the receiver or something similar?
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 4:40 PM Post #4 of 16
In theory you could put speakers in series to get the effective impedance up, but you'll change the frequency response of the system pretty dramatically by doing that (because one speaker will act as a "filter" to the other one). If it's rated at 6 ohms it may play with them at lower volumes, but I'd still expect it to get pretty warm and potentially go into a protection mode if you try to run those speakers very hard. If they're HTIB speakers though, I can't imagine they're very exceptional - might be worth it to just invest in something nicer that's also assured to be compatible. :)
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 5:44 PM Post #5 of 16

Those are the speakers. Got 4 of them plus 1 center and 1 sub which packs alot of punch actually.
Still nothing I can do though? cause new speakers will cost more than the receiver itself and yet I dont want to go all out cheapo on the most important part.
Barely got money for christmas bruh
 
Dec 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM Post #6 of 16
The speakers will work, but as others have stated...  The Pioneer will get hot as you add volume.  As the Pioneer has a USB port, one way to reduce the heat/keep the AVR cool(er), is to add USB powered fan(s) to the top of the unit.  Either one 140mm or dual 120mm fans will work, placing them so that the air is being pulled OUT of the top vents.  Pioneers USB power "usually" will shutoff when the AVR powers off, so you do not have to manually unplug/plugin the fans each time to use them.
 
Also, make sure to place the AVR in as good as a ventilated spot as possible. 
 
Here's examples of what I use on my Marantz and Onkyo units and work incredibly well; heat, both excessive and long-term is a killer of electronic components: 
 
http://www.acinfinity.com/component-usb-fans/multifan-s4-quiet-usb-cooling-fan-140mm/
 
http://www.acinfinity.com/component-usb-fans/multifan-s7-quiet-usb-cooling-fan-dual-120mm/
 
Dec 9, 2016 at 1:25 AM Post #7 of 16
The speakers will work, but as others have stated...  The Pioneer will get hot as you add volume.  As the Pioneer has a USB port, one way to reduce the heat/keep the AVR cool(er), is to add USB powered fan(s) to the top of the unit.  Either one 140mm or dual 120mm fans will work, placing them so that the air is being pulled OUT of the top vents.  Pioneers USB power "usually" will shutoff when the AVR powers off, so you do not have to manually unplug/plugin the fans each time to use them.

Also, make sure to place the AVR in as good as a ventilated spot as possible. 

Here's examples of what I use on my Marantz and Onkyo units and work incredibly well; heat, both excessive and long-term is a killer of electronic components: 

http://www.acinfinity.com/component-usb-fans/multifan-s4-quiet-usb-cooling-fan-140mm/

http://www.acinfinity.com/component-usb-fans/multifan-s7-quiet-usb-cooling-fan-dual-120mm/

Thanks alot for your help, I really appreciate it but I've decided either way to just buy new speakers.
Though it would be really helpful if you/someone could recommend me 5.1 speakers under 500 dollars. Or bokshelf speakers (a pair) under 250 dollars.
 
Dec 9, 2016 at 3:43 PM Post #10 of 16
Pioneer has a worldwide presence - I mean, you were able to purchase a Pioneer receiver, right? I'd think you should be able to find a shop that carried them or could order it for you.
 
Dec 9, 2016 at 4:26 PM Post #11 of 16
  Pioneer has a worldwide presence - I mean, you were able to purchase a Pioneer receiver, right? I'd think you should be able to find a shop that carried them or could order it for you.

I know they have - though some stores don't have everything they've created. Sure, could probably ask them if they could order them. 
And the Pioneer receiver was used haha. Saved like 500 bucks cause of that
 
Dec 9, 2016 at 11:52 PM Post #13 of 16
I know these are US links...  But, this is a 6-ohm set of Yamaha 5.1 speakers that are under $250... Not sure how that would work with International shipping OR if they would be available in Sweden.  Looking at your receiver, I do not see anything rating below 6-ohms, so you'd run into that heat issue again perhaps running anything below 6-ohms; do not have access to the owner's manual to verify this.

Again, this set is just an example of 5.1 speakers NEW. A set of used in near-new condition could be had for less I'm sure.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-P40BL-Speaker-Package-Black/dp/B00CN45XHG

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/speaker-systems/speaker-packages/ns-p40_w/

As far as bookshelf speakers go, with your budget... With being in Sweden if available, Klipsch R-14M's are reasonably priced at around $100 USD, leaving you some room down the road to build on towards a 5.1 in the future with a 10" or 12" sub, center and additional R-14's. If this model seems too small for your needs, the R-15M is a tad larger BUT comes in at around $249 USD.
 
Dec 10, 2016 at 4:17 AM Post #14 of 16
I know these are US links...  But, this is a 6-ohm set of Yamaha 5.1 speakers that are under $250... Not sure how that would work with International shipping OR if they would be available in Sweden.  Looking at your receiver, I do not see anything rating below 6-ohms, so you'd run into that heat issue again perhaps running anything below 6-ohms; do not have access to the owner's manual to verify this.

Again, this set is just an example of 5.1 speakers NEW. A set of used in near-new condition could be had for less I'm sure.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-P40BL-Speaker-Package-Black/dp/B00CN45XHG

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/speaker-systems/speaker-packages/ns-p40_w/

As far as bookshelf speakers go, with your budget... With being in Sweden if available, Klipsch R-14M's are reasonably priced at around $100 USD, leaving you some room down the road to build on towards a 5.1 in the future with a 10" or 12" sub, center and additional R-14's. If this model seems too small for your needs, the R-15M is a tad larger BUT comes in at around $249 USD.

I would honestly lnly buy a 5.1 package if it's worth it. In Sweden the Yamaha package you mentioned costs 180 dollars and I would want to spend around like 500 dollars on the whole setup if possible. I do want quality :) . And the Klipsch speakers... dont even bring them up as the pair you mentioned costs 250 dollars here...
What do you think about Proson and Dynavoice?
**** brand or good budget brands?
 
Dec 10, 2016 at 4:49 PM Post #15 of 16
My apologies...  I don't know where I got the $250 from
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...  In any event, I cannot find any information on Proson speakers using Google here in the US.  However, looking at the Dynavoice speakers...  The Dynavoice appear to be fairly good speakers by looking at the reviews, specs and pricing of a couple of their speakers by using a money converter from SEK to USD.
 
As long as you stick to your budget and keep the speakers to 6-ohm and within the same model-series so that they are "voice-matched", I think that you will be okay.  8-ohm speakers will work as well for your AVR, but 6-ohm is optimal as your AVR will require less power/watts to drive them.
 
Hope this helps...
 
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