120 GB iPod in less than a month - ready to be iModded

Aug 20, 2007 at 2:17 PM Post #31 of 49
Does anyone know if the iPod 5.5g has IDE drive size limitations built in? I had a older nas device that wouldn't accept drives over 127GB.

If the iPod 5.5 has a similar limitation I'd bite on the 120GB hook immediately. Otherwise I think I'd still wait for 160.
 
Aug 21, 2007 at 9:09 PM Post #33 of 49
2GB is adequate for me.
 
Aug 21, 2007 at 9:31 PM Post #34 of 49
WOW. I would love to have a 120GB Ipod so I can stuff it with 128kps MP3's.
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Then again - none of you have heard my 128kps MP3's. As good as FLAC.
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Still though, a 120GB iMod does sound very tempting!
 
Aug 21, 2007 at 10:03 PM Post #35 of 49
Wonder if anyone is playing with using the larger capacity flash hard drives yet (or even the smaller ones)? They are available up to 256GB, and offer nearly immediate data access times and use VERY LITTLE power. Also a lot more durable.
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Vinnie?
 
Aug 21, 2007 at 11:40 PM Post #36 of 49
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WOW. I would love to have a 120GB Ipod so I can stuff it with 128kps MP3's.
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Then again - none of you have heard my 128kps MP3's. As good as FLAC.
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Still though, a 120GB iMod does sound very tempting!



Screw 128kbs, I gonna get myself a 120GB and sync ALL of my 32kbps and 64kbps MP3s to the brim - that will give me God knows how many long hours of listening until my ear bleed
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Aug 22, 2007 at 11:54 PM Post #37 of 49
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Screw 128kbs, I gonna get myself a 120GB and sync ALL of my 32kbps and 64kbps MP3s to the brim - that will give me God knows how many long hours of listening until my ear bleed
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In mono to boot.
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Aug 23, 2007 at 3:16 PM Post #40 of 49
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Wonder if anyone is playing with using the larger capacity flash hard drives yet (or even the smaller ones)? They are available up to 256GB, and offer nearly immediate data access times and use VERY LITTLE power. Also a lot more durable.
hmmm...
Vinnie?



SSD? They also cost THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars, and I doubt they will be available to consumers. 32gigs of SSD is $500. It goes up exponentially from there.
 
Aug 23, 2007 at 5:50 PM Post #41 of 49
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SSD? They also cost THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of dollars, and I doubt they will be available to consumers. 32gigs of SSD is $500. It goes up exponentially from there.



Nope, sorry - you're information is only partially correct. 32GB IDE drives were available to manufacturers as of early 3rd quarter last year and the going rate is now +/- $50 per 4GB chip (the laws of economics dictate that cost will continue to fall). That makes a 32GB IDE drive cost in the neighborhood of +/- $400. There are at least two manufacturers that have successfully made 256GB IDE drives to date. While drives that large are currently cost prohibitive, they won't be forever and the larger capacity available, the more affordable "normal" capacity drives will become. Remember virtually every new technology that has ever been invented? It ALL started out expensive, and there were always people saying it would never take off due to cost. Think $1200 VHS players and >$1000 consumer grade CD players. Remember when ABS brakes were only on expensive German cars?

This appears to be the direction the industry is headed in for all sorts of reasons. For the consumer, there are the obvious benefits of greater durability and longevity - as well as reliability. There are also the issues of lower power consumption, lighter weight, faster access times, and smaller footprint. For manufacturers, they can produce the product cheaper (provided they have a hand in flash chip production already such as Samsung) and with fewer moving parts. Drives can also be made at a faster rate. All indications show a lower initial failure incidence rate, as well. All these facts point to an inevitable shift in the direction of chip based drives in the near future. Add to this the fact that MS made Vista's chip based drive technology "official" by issuing compatibility certificates in June.

So, to make a long story short, chip based memory is where we're all headed. Well, our electronic memory, anyway.

Edit, think of it this way - our iPhones are chip based and they offer the same music functionality and sync method as any iPod (now if they would only unlock more of the system so we could use it like an external drive). Logically, one has to assume that there are other chip based players at least being experimented with at Apple since they already have two working models (4 and 8GB iPhones). Remember, my original question asked about mod'ing iPods to use flash type memory. The whole industry adaptation discussion was a little side trip! Also of note, from correspondence with pocketpctechs, they have implied they may be working on increasing the memory available for the iPhone, which if successful, means potentially more widespread versatility among other mp3 players. Replacing the disk in an iPod with a flash type drive is not really stretching the imagination - and think of the benefits!
 
Aug 23, 2007 at 6:07 PM Post #43 of 49
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We're not headed to SSD for a long, long time. HDD tech is becoming better, and cheaper, at a faster rate. It will be better than SSD for a long, long time.


ok then.
 
Aug 23, 2007 at 7:23 PM Post #44 of 49
Vinman, while i agree that its where we are headed, your suggestion that it will be soon is crazy. i doubt any dap manufacturers are thinking of implementing high capacity ssd in the near future as the cost is extremely prohibitve at the moment.

why did you use the iphone as your example? there have been a number of manufacturers using flash memory for a very long time. iaudio and creative now have 16GB flash devices and the nano has been available in 8GB for a while now. creative's 16GB flash v+ is being sold for the same (or a bit more) than their 30GB hard drive vision:m, but it seems a better example than the iphone.

judging by the OverlordXenu's correct assertion of the price of a 32GB ssd around $500, and the correct assumption that a 256GB ssd would be multiple thousands of dollars (newegg has a 64GB ssd for $1,300), implying that manufacturers are thinking about ssds that large is pretty far fetched. no one would purchase a 64GB flash ipod for over $1300 when they could get an 80GB hard drive ipod for $350. and (as we are discussing in this thread) these new hard drives could double that to 160GB shortly.

i absolutely realize the benefits of flash memory and i am excited to see all the new 16GB offerings, but no company is going to release a DAP over $1000.
 
Aug 23, 2007 at 7:42 PM Post #45 of 49
I used the iPhone as an example because, in part, it is a derivative of the iPod - which is what this thread is about.

As far as asserting manufacturers would be using drives "that large"; well, I didn't. I was simply making the observation that drives that large have been made, and that would mean as they become commercially available, small capacity drives will become less costly. You can buy Dell Latitudes now with SSD drives (as of April, you could get a 32gb - I haven't checked Dell availability, but PQI released a 64gb SATA drive earlier this year). Also, as more and more manufacturers produce SSD drives, competition will drive down cost. Simple economics.

This seems to be an issue, that for whatever reason, is bringing out some seemingly defensive attitudes. I'll drop it on my end. I have no stake in it aside from looking forward to the benefits that are offered. My only question was whether or not anyone had considered it, or done any experimentation. Apparently the answer is no.
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