has just been announced at maccentral.com. supposed to include the armband and certificate for 15 songs from itunes. just in case anyone is interested.

have been announced by Kyocera to be sold in Apple's Ginza (Tokyo) store and by Apple on line. See theregister.co.uk/2004/07/22/kyocera_ipod_cam/ If they're any good, I may want one just for the fun of it!

i'm not a gambler or a fan of horse racing, but i would love to see smarty jones win, and i'm wondering why that is. what is it about this situation and human nature that makes it matter to people? there's another thread in "outside" about the election in november, and despite war, terrorism...

the sites audible.com mentions as carrying this offer (through june 30) are amazon.com, jandr.com, crutchfields's and mobile planet. offer covers the mini, as well. doesn't look like any of the sites had the mini in stock, but other ipods are available. for those who like hearing books as well...

audible and j&r are offering $100 off an ipod with a 1-year subscription ($15/month) to audible (books on tape, essentially). it's a good deal if you like books and would be buying anyway. j&r is out of stock right now but saying they expect new stock in the second week in april. i just ordered...

you can't order these at this price through their web site; you have to call their 800 #. these are not the white e5c's.