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  1. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    You Win.  16 bit is the same as 24bit.  No difference.  Happy now. You can now move on to your next prey.  Have fun guys :-)
  2. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    This makes no sense.  You feel the thread owner created this thread to only hear people agree with him/her that there is no benefit to 24bit over 16bit?  Come on.  The thread was clearly started to get a rise out of anyone that does hear/feel a difference with hi res audio only to coordinate a...
  3. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    You are missing the point of his research.  His point is how much people's perception improved after gaining some experience in how to listen better.  There is no such thing as golden ears.  But there are certainly trained ears.  He found trained ears did better than those that were untrained...
  4. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    Proves your point how.  I think you need to read further and maybe others here can reeducate themselves since we are all so willing to learn.  This was not one test by the way.  This is data pulled from 18 studies.  The researcher himself decided he needed to start listening to 24bit audio due...
  5. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    Want to retract your delusional statement.  I have not started directly attacking any of you.  Not cool guys.  Sorry you must not be a trained listener yourself or you simply just do not know what to listen for otherwise you would feel what I feel. 
  6. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    You guys going to refute this science too?  Or are you open to new research?   http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=18296   All the research you guys have been discussing was older research.  Playback systems were not even up to par or controlled most likely.     I have read all the...
  7. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    Here is a transcript for Scientific American.  Someone else was doing research too and actually found more than 50% of people that can DBT pick the higher than CD quality file.  Interesting huh?    Published just 6 months ago.  Hmmm...   Hi Res is not an auditory experience in that we will...
  8. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    24bit Audio fills the air differently.  If you don't feel that, sorry you don't.  Many do.     I just don't understand why people have to refute us ignorant people so much.  Why not just let us have our 24bit audio and leave it alone.  You don't have to buy it.  And in fact the cost of your...
  9. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    You guys are so wrapped up in any scientific article that refutes 24bit as much as you can as opposed to doing some subjective listening yourself. You should all know by now measurements and graphs do not necessarily equate to what we actually hear.  Have you guys not seen the research done by...
  10. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    Wow.  It is evidently apparant that many people on this thread have lost quite a bit of their hearing.  Must be, otherwise they could actually hear 24bit.  I am really sorry to hear that you are not able to hear what I hear.  I must be the lucky one.  Maybe I should start being a missionary like...
  11. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    You guys ever run Hertz Mille Speakers Active not passive off a 32 band capable Calibration with appropriate Time Delay personally by the Midwest Hertz Audison rep.  He used a very expensive Audison Bit Tune Auto Calibration System through an Audison 24 Audison Bit One processor also supporting...
  12. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    Listen this thread has been going on since 2009 and it does not look like the argument will ever stop.  This will be the last time I am going to post here. It is just a waste of my energy.  Sorry nothing personal, just a topic that irks me every time I see another post or article about it.  I am...
  13. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    Dolby Digital can have a bit rate as high as 3mbits/s and as low as 500kbps.  All depends on how compressed they make it.     Dolby Digital Plus is even higher rates and I feel people will still feel there is a huge difference between Dolby Digital Plus and the 24bit Movie soundtracks.  Mostly...
  14. NoteEater

    24bit vs 16bit, the myth exploded!

    I have read enough of this thread that I think it is time to throw something out there for the refuters to 24bit audio benefits.   How many of you watch movies on a surround sound system?  Do you listen to to Dolby True HD or DTS Master Audio HD?     If you have, I say you should just go...
  15. NoteEater

    The Fiio A5 thread: an upgrade of E12A, MUSES02+LME49600, 800mW, 19Vp-p, 12 hours

    I figured that was the case regarding low volume. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the reply.
  16. NoteEater

    The Fiio A5 thread: an upgrade of E12A, MUSES02+LME49600, 800mW, 19Vp-p, 12 hours

    Has anyone driven any 600ohm headphones with the A5?  It is rated for 300ohms on the spec sheet but it shows that as recommended.     I own one and want to test it out on a pair of 600ohm Beyerdynamic T1 Gen 2 headphones but don't want to damage either product.     I love the A5 with my...
  17. NoteEater

    Chicago area Headphone Meet - January 28th 2017 "ChiUniFi"

    Looking forward to hearing the Elear.  I like the DT880 Premium Black set that came yesterday quite a bit.  However, I really do not like the 9ft cable that comes with it.  Might be returning the set if I like even more the Beyer T1 Gen 2 set that is arriving tomorrow.  Won't be fully broken in...
  18. NoteEater

    Fostex HP-A4BL (the A4 with balanced output)

    I am not sure if my question was answered.     Has anyone used the optical in on the HP-A4BL with their DAP using a mini toslink to terminated optical cable(not adapter) as opposed to the typically supplied mini toslink to coaxial adapter with coaxial digital cable?     I don't want to...
  19. NoteEater

    Chicago area Headphone Meet - January 28th 2017 "ChiUniFi"

    I am new to the Chicago Meet group.  Lived here my whole life.  I should be able to attend for most of Meet.  My wife's birthday that day so I will probably have to leave early afternoon.     Looking forward to checking out some of the gear people are bringing.  Just getting into this so I do...
  20. NoteEater

    Fostex HP-A4BL (the A4 with balanced output)

    I don't have a ton of experience listening to all the different headphone amps out there, but I have to say I love the HP-A4BL.  It is not as powerful as the Jotunheim, but powerful enough to drive most headphones.  Currently running a pair of HE400i cans with balanced XLR with the HP-A4BL and I...
  21. NoteEater

    Help me find a DAP ~$300

    These are 4 good options for media players on PC.  Actually driver, winamp, and vlc work on both pc and mac.   http://www.foobar2000.org   https://www.jriver.com/purchase.html   http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html   This is also a great player with decent browser:  ...
  22. NoteEater

    Help me find a DAP ~$300

    Do an AB comparison with iTunes and the free VLC Media Player.  Everyone should have VLC on their computer.  Plays 24bit Audio too.  Footer is a decent player as well on PC.  Fellow software DB PowerAmp is often for music file conversions and ripping CDs on both Mac and PC.   If you want the...
  23. NoteEater

    Help me find a DAP ~$300

    Totally agree.  Definitely the battery issue and not being able to use the phone for phone use is a huge reason to get a DAP.  But something like the FiiO X1 gen II with Bluetooth is a perfect small option with decent SQ and pretty easy to navigate.  I own for around the house with my BT...
  24. NoteEater

    Help me find a DAP ~$300

    One thing I will say is my usage of a DAP for 4 years now has pretty much been restricted to 16bit ALAC/FLAC or more commonly 24bit 96khz vinyl recordings and live concert recordings. A 20 song concert can be upwards of 3gb total so this is a much different usage from 1000s of mp3s. Man on a bad...
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