Seems like the T60rp argon was designed for ZMF pads, but when they commissioned the Xenon pads, it made a big difference, but I don't know if he modded the actual headphones to work better with the new pads. You seem to feel that the new pads on the zmf version of the argon is poor without...

The ka17 consumes more power than ka5 when d mode is off BTW. . I just don't believe you if you think the KA17 sounds noticeably better. Maybe you have ears like a bat. Or maybe cognitive dissonance for your new purchase.

Try shp9500. The hd600 is about 5% better but quadruple the price.

Bro. Philips shp9500. It's always the 9500 if you want stellar performance on minimal budget. Always always always.

I find the problems intermittent. Sometimes it plays without having to open the fiio app and detect the device, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes opening an app or pressing the home button makes it disconnect and it needs to be un plugged and replugged. Sometimes that doesn't work and it needs to...

I like fiio products a lot. I just think that there are a lot of compromises with this device that I find surprising in a flagship product. And the bugs and disconnection issues are not acceptable.

Thanks for ignoring all the other points I made. The much higher power consumption in D mode which is not good for a portable device, hot to the touch, constant disconnection issues. Lack of app support, random popping noises. Crashing after changing settings. Device not being recognised and...

In this very thread. The post I referenced showed the power consumption. The negative experience of disconnects, overheating, popping sounds, lack of hardware and app controls, large size and weight vs other fiio dongles, failure to detect etc are my own experience. I have owned ka5 and ka13...

Excellent post and confirms to me that the KA17 is a piece of crap and a titanic step back in every single aspect compared to both the ka13 and ka5 in every area except pure power output. That the ka13 has better hardware controls, app support and outputs only 80mw less at 60% of the power...

So I checked this on my device, using accubattery which monitors battery drain. Drain without the dongle plugged in or powered is about 215mw, plugging in the dongle and playing music makes the power draw fluctuate between 600 and 800wm with desktop mode on and high gain, changing to low gain...

Will have to check. I just noticed it was getting hot.

That should make no difference I think, it will just run headphones quietly, not shut down.

That is terrible. This device is looking like a bit of a catastrophe to be honest.

I don't buy this. The ka13 puts out 550mw and it's a much smaller device than the KA17 at 650mw. I dont think that getting hot is anything to do with the power output. It's not logical, it can output full power when connected to a phone and it doesn't get hot, so it shouldn't from an external...

Hello. Thanks for reply. The crucial missing function is play/pause for the multifunction button. Then you can control music without having to open the phone. Mute/unmute is not a valuable substitute for play/pause. I would also like the option of holding the volume button to skip track forward...

Very generous of you there. I think a huge step back in functionality is more than a little disappointing. They never should have released this device with an ess dac if it broke everything that was good about the ka5.

Anyone who is pissed about the lack of control support for this cluster**** of a device, I suggest you install Volumee on android. It allows you to use phone buttons to play/pause and skip track. If you set it up and buy the app for a couple of dollars. I use 600ms hold on up volume to...

OK thanks. As I suspected a significant downgrade in functionality in every possible way versus the ka5. Heavier, more battery drain, larger, uglier (imo) no app support, no play/pause, no skip track. All it does is add more power, although barely more than the ka13. Personally I feel loyal...

Fiio. Please can you comment on my extensive list of issues for this device. E.g. No proper controls in the app for anything other than eq. No play/pause option for multifunction button, or track skip for volume buttons. Random disconnects and device not detected warnings. When (or if) will...

I've heard that the clamping force of the hd6xx is brutsl (and a lesser extent but still bad on the 600). I am super sensitive to this and like the fostex as your can bend the headband to give very light clamping force. Do you notice this issue with senn? My t60rps arrived in the states for...

I tested my T60RPs on both the KA5 and the KA13 when I was trying to decide which to keep and the volume was absolutely ear splitting on both. In fact I damaged my hearing testing the KA5 it went so loud. I didn't hear any cut outs and to my ears they didn't sound very much different to be...

I agree. At the moment unless you need the massive 650mw power it is worse. I prefer the ka13.

I don't understand your post I'm afraid. You mean you don't know how what is claimed? That it has within app control for all functions? Almost every single review and preview said you could control the settings with the fiio app. You can't, you can only control eq. If I recall the "manual" in...

Oh that's interesting thanks. I should have waited for that.

Thanks for reply. Did you see reviews which said that it had full app control? I saw one to say all features were in the app "except gain control" which seems very specific for it not to be true. But i can't see how they had app control for early reviewers working bit not now.