thank you, and sorry for posting in the wrong forum.   final question then, am i wrong in assuming that rca is poor quality? I figured if i went straight from hd800s ---> lyr ----> red and white into whatever that it would defeat the purpose

I tried to avoid coming here to ask this because of how this might look, but here's my situation.   I have a brand new pair of hd800s, a brand new Lyr, a combo I saw in a different thread on this very thread.   But I don't know how to hook that up into anything else. A quick search...