after researching and seeing all those speakers without rca input, I might as well just get a standard odac XD

t1 looks like a interesting pick, any idea on choosing between it and a d1?

I got you, but like I said, I am a OCD person, can't stand 3.5mm instead of RCA potentially effecting sound quality even though most not likely 

from 3.5mm, cel4145 suggested me to use 3.5 to rca converter

I dont want any extra cross talk, even though I probably wont hear the difference , OCD

yeah, e10k doesn't have rca out though, could have been a pick for me

Thanks for all the recommendation, I will look into them

I do prefer it to have a amp, but without one is ok, somethign like XDA2 is a bit too big for my desktop setup

I know audioengine d1 and odac have rca output, any other ideas? or the preference over that two? thanks

Have a look into akg y series as well, they are pretty good, loving my y40 XD

Got myself a pair of y40, at this price I cant think of anything that's better than them. They were tuned for balance I would say, thicker on the low end, but not basshead style. They are just new and haven't fully burned in yet, I am just gonna do some brief comparison of some portable...

wow these headphones and so unbelievably unpopular

I think "torture one-self" is too extreme of a translation XD

I didnt burn in, assuming they are mostly balanced armature XD IM70 presents vocal better is most likely because of its warmer background, when the music and vocal comes together, its 2khz bump makes the vocal like a bright spot in the middle of dark background. Therefore in contrast, it is...

I am not feeling the t2 love for myself, comparing to im70 t2 has less bass, too less of sub-bass for me. vocal sounds a bit duller. I think it's because of the little 2khz bump on im70 combined with a warmer signature, makes the vocal sweeter and stands out a bit more. im70 has a fuller...

e17k review is up on headfonia http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e17k-alpen-2-a-good-all-round-starter/ basically saying, same dac as e10k, but e10k has better sounding amp section for him, quote "The E10K has more body and delivers a warmer, more bodied sound with great musicality."

ha, i see

aren't the rings too long to fit on the earphone along with the spirals? need to cut a bit off?

Umm Spirals kinda feel worse than the stock tips, more pressure in inner ear, but less pressure outer ear.

Got the c5d back after switching to 2 dacs! Trade it first time coz I prefer my phone's sound to it, turns my my phone has a bit of mid-treble boost compared to c5d, made my dark v-shape headphone's vocal a bit more engaging. Now with im70's balanced sound, I am loving the c5d. I got the c5d...

Can't wait for you to update the vs e10k :) the two latest model

I am so curious how it compares to the jdslabs c5d, accordingly it is better than all fiio previous product for iem

the sub $30s in store are mostly bad honestly, panasonic is great value $15 headphone so I heard, sony's pretty good. earpod is good as well, but not suited for gym.

JDSLAB C5 is a reasonable price amp alone, and popular around here 

Wondering how good the cable did you try it with?  $100 audioquest? XD I tried with other computers, didn't solve the problem. I guess explorer isn't for sensitive iems. I am gonna switch to the good old jdslab c5d, after some research, I think it is pretty good for my taste being neutral to...