I suggest staying agnostic in that regard, you might be surprised one day. If i learned something in past couple of years in audio is to avoid definitive statements when it comes to cables, power and burn in, unless I really empirically tested something excessively.

Nope you didnt read it right. I am sure for people inexperienced with high end gear there will be a wow moment right away. But for experienced people who are comparing Envy with something like Wa23 or Ha-300b that might(!) not be apparent what makes Envy so special if the unit isn't burned in.

Western Electric’s 300B Application Note: “The filament of a Western Electric 300B is aged or “burned-in” for nine hours following strict procedures established by Bell Laboratories engineers. While this initial duration is sufficient to meet quality control standards, a 300B sometimes requires...

Is it so? I believe several people with zero stakes in the game not spending a cent on the unit, are worth listening too, especially when one of those is a rather reputable reviewer in the scene. I think its good when new people who try Envy are aware that their ffreshly bought unit might need...

All three people in CMA chat been listening to the same unit at Kojis place I believe. I think at this point the claim that there is any grain can be debunked as issue of insufficient break in of demo units either way.

I wouldn’t. Bliss changed by a mile after 100h. Whats unusual here is that it took 450h of break in, which is a lot. And if thats the case, its something that should been done by the manu.

Another quick finding from CMA Envy review process: the amp completly changes after roughly 450h of break in, apparently no grain anymore and huge improvement in res and staging capabilities, now they place it as a step up to Cayin in many categories. I think the need of break in is an important...

Wonder how Aegis compares to 300b stuff like Envy, Wa23 and Red October

Indeed power conditioning could be a factor too.

Following the review process of Envy by ConvinceMeAudio which is still in progress I keep wondering about the conclusions Koji and few others guys who tried his unit made so far. „Grain“ / „lack of clarity“ and lower resolution than amps like Red October but even the cheaper Cayin Ha-300b are...

Could be the Shangri La Mini that soft debuted in Munich couple of weeks ago. A banger for the price that was mentioned to the guests. I preferred it to Bravura.

Give them 150-200h. They open up a lot with burn in. If you need even more mids sweetness add Brimars D-Getter drivers or Sylvania 6sn7w But honestly We300b is peak mid focused 300b outthere, it wont get better than that. And yeah, remember to register for 5y warranty in the first week after...

This IEMs second hand price is around 2.7-3,2k :]

Very different headphones though :)

Which one?

Immanis is great, Ideally I would want to own both, but after plenty of listening sessions with Envy and Envy AE in Munich last week and already having Susvara I dont feel like I miss much and rather invest in the chain to further push Susvara to the limits than investing almost 10 grand in...

If anyone has access to both to A/B curious to read how it compares to May, stage width, depth, dynamics and slam.

yeah I think ha-300mk2 is rather similar to Envy, Envy seem to bring bit more solid state technicalities to the table, cayin is bit more tubier with its rectifiers. If slam is what you are going for wandla with those two hps is probably some of the best setups you can get sub 20k. You might...

Love mine with Envy, yet to find anything that can match it tonality and technicalities aside of 30k Aperio :) Though might want a different dac one day, when I grow up and become very rich lol In all seriousness Munich Highend fair last week was quite an eye opening experience, it became...

You might get more slam out of May than Wandla trowing in HQP with a very specific filter on a powerful pc... maybe and you might sacrifice other qualities of May doing sso. If you find Wandla lacking slam (it has a lot imho), the only upgrades I can think off is Chord Dave and Wavedream...

You are in for a ride. Replacing the driver tubes will be the next big jump. Remember to register your WE300b for extended warranty =)

Just tried with Verite Open and Atrium - zero hum.

Trying right now with Susvara - when no music is playing, its like the amp is off, its dead silent. The background remains pitch black when the music plays. Changing gain doesnt affect it in any way.

Will let you know tomorrow. But really those might the tubes? Do you have any sources interference near your amp? Like phones? Since that was the only time I had slight hum on high gain with Envy. Really doubt there is any meaningful difference between OG and PE tbh

My PE with We300b + Brimars is dead silent no matter the gain setting. Got Brimars with "holy grail" d-getter and grey plates last week. still burning in ( around 100h now) best driver pair I had with WE300b so far. Highly detailed, dynamic, holographic and slightly warm. I usually have buyers...