What do you mean layers ? I do find it narrow and crowded at times.

Thank you . I will try wide bore tips. I agree Enigma has narrow stage as a result crowded imaging ?

How would you guys describe the stage of the Enigma/ Enigma+ (I assume the original lot were closed back) ? Some how I feel Seraph has better stage ! Enigma doesnt feel as expansive as Seraph. Do filters and cables alter stage ? Any pointers if i can achieve a more expansive sound from the...

I agree that Enigma performs better with better sources. I use an ibasso dx320 and Qobuzz . these seem to bring out very good sound from the Enigma.

Try Black bottom and gold upper with pure copper cable and softears tips for the Seraph. I don't get any sibilance with this combination any more. And Seraph sounds pretty good with this combo for sure.

Enigma+ presentation of classical music is really fantastic. Specially the violin. V16 even with all its separation sounds a little plain. But I'm going to have to test some orchestral stuff on both v16 and Enigma.

Switched to black lowers on the Enigma+. The bass and sub bass levels are just insane. Feels like bass has increased considerably after some burn in. Used to find the bass slightly bloated before but it seems better now

Some one here has already done the 1 er zr comparison in great detail.

Yes this track is slightly sibilant on Enigma+. Try the Qobuzz version it is less sibilant. But then I expect mj s high pitch to be slightly sibilant.

Will try to get this thanks

If you get a good deal go for it

In my case, Enigma+ and Thie Audio V16 are both comparable. Overall /bass / musicality Enigma+ has an edge , but in terms of detail and separation v16 wins. I dont think ill need to buy anything for a while. I'd like a nice cable for the Enigma though How does the fibae 7 compare with Enigma+ ?

I You are completely right. Eros s also introduces sibilance in Enigma +. Code 23 has no sibilance.

Beautiful pictures and I initial impressions

Then finally is the faceplate with holes the only difference ? Can I use the seraph faceplates on the Enigma+ ? If I just unscrew and screw the seraph faceplate does the Enigma+ become open back ?