Congratulation!!! You will not regret...I still love mine since I bought mine. I'm glad I exchanged my Zen Xtra for this, I never look back since then. I particularly like the cross-fading. It is one of the best feature....Best of luck.

I used Sony Armband with my Karma when I go for a run. I know I'm not supposed to run with HD base player but so far I had been fortunate. I'm glad you like the Karma. I still love mine up to this days since I had it for a month and a half ago.

Quote: Originally posted by scottder I think I would have considered the Karma if they had been able to get the 40gb model out, but from what I hear they had supply problems. Scott Well 40gb, I think is too much to put all in one unit. What if the HD crashed? Then all your music...

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[What features did the Karma have that you wanted over the Xtra? First of all the, the size. I workout a regularly and I wanted something small enough that I can put it on my armstrap while working out. I have a portable minidisc as well. But I don't like taking many disc with me. And...

Well good, if you can wait...that is fine. I had a 30gig Zen Xtra once, but I had to exchanged for the Karma. Because I like the size and feature on it more. But what I missed the most from the Zen Xtra was the SVM (Smart Volume Management).

That's a long wait....I don't think I can wait that long. At least I got my own gift for this year....Rio Karma and DVD-R recorder for my computer. I didn't have to wait that long. Don't worry Zen Xtra is worth waiting for, just hang on in there and don't loose sleep over it.

yeah, I hear man....I am one happy camper myself. Rio Karma rocks. Despite of all the trashed that people said about this unit. Who cares....Rio, Rio, Rio....Go!!!

Min. RAM size 64 MB? Is this cool or what?

I agree. Karma rocks! I used to own a zen xtra and I thought that it was too big for my workout activity so I went with the karma instead. I never look back since then and wouldn't trade this baby for anything else.

I used KSC-55 or the Portapro without using the EQ and it does well.

You guys will not regret getting the Karma it rocks!!!

Thanks Patchmaster! I will try to do that.

Actually, I learned recently that when the Karma was completely out. The battery pack will not give the unit a enough power to power up. So I'm now in doubt that this battery pack works.