Quite a subtle difference would you say? I noticed no difference at all, which was surprising. I'd love to try the mojo but I'm not paying £400 for it...

I tried both spotify premium and tidal hifi. Couldn't tell a difference between spotify or tidal when using the dac or not. Guess my ears are terrible. I don't think rock/metal music gets improved much by high end audio equipment. That's my theory anyway :p

Did you try either with your iMac? I noticed no difference with my MacBook Pro using a DFR

Has anyone else tried it with a mac? Noticed no difference with my DFR on a 2014 Macbook Pro. Would love to try a mojo but if people say it's only a bit better than a DFR which made no difference... I don't have much hope.

None, I use none with my P9s too. I tried the Dragonfly Red with my Macbook Pro but it made zero difference. I guess macs have good dacs/amps. Saves me £170.

If the red is miles better, and to me makes zero difference with B&W P9s on a MacBook Pro, what does the black sound like? Might even be worse than the macs dac/amp ;)

Any excuse to get the P9s huh? ;)

Don't worry! It's not your fault I'm hard of hearing :p I'll keep an eye out for any other dacs by Audioquest in the future, they can only get better, i hope.

It definitely should improve the audio from a phone as the dac/amp will be average to poor, but from my mac, it made no difference. I also think rock/metal improves very little from dacs and high end headphones. Or maybe just ignore everything as i'm deaf.... :P I'd definitely try it, you can...

Macs unsurprisingly have better dac/amps than a windows laptop. Particularly as they are geared as media creation devices. The difference as a result will be bigger for a windows laptop.

Yes, there is no difference with B&W P9s and my 2014 Macbook Pro. I tried spotify and tidal, no difference to either. I've packed the DF Red up and will be returning it today. I guess the mac has a good built in dac and amp. Quite disappointed after all I've read but nevermind.

I read OTL amps were for hard to drive headphones, not sure how true that is. I'd love to try several different kinds of amps back to back with my P9s but it's just not possible to do that as far as i'm aware. The Dragonfly Red is the first amp i've ever tried with any pair of headphones and it...

I've been testing the DF Red through my macbook pro with the P9s are these are my thoughts (also posted in the DF thread): Doing some final testing before I decide whether to get my DF Red or take it back. I've let it 'run in' for about 36 hours since I got it, and my P9s have been used for over...

Doing some final testing before I decide whether to get my DF Red or take it back. I've let it 'run in' for about 36 hours since I got it, and my P9s have been used for over 100 hours since I got them. I still can't tell if it makes the music sound better or it's the placebo effect. I'm not sure...

when you spend more on your dac/amp than headphones :P