DENAFRIPS 'ARES' R2R discrete ladder DAC - close up view
May 22, 2017 at 5:03 PM Post #963 of 3,907
Hello Evryone,

Could you confirm that Ares is an upgrade from schiit modi multibit ?
How are the trebble ? I'm looking for extendanted and impactfull bass, lush mids, and mostly really soft/mellow high-mids and treeble.

And how it compite against Teac UD-501, Aune S6 or gustard x12 ?

Thx

Anye one ? Please mostly against the gustard x12
 
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May 22, 2017 at 6:30 PM Post #965 of 3,907
Some Venus photos:
https://www.vinshineaudio.com/product-page/denafrips-venus-r2r-dac
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May 23, 2017 at 7:28 AM Post #968 of 3,907
Nice review! I've prepared a russian translation here

Hello! thanks, much appreciated.

However, in the following thread which I tried to read using Google Translate from russian, most posts are focalising on the (supposed) low quality of the Touch as a source.

Please note that:
- Touch is not standard but with EDO firmware enabling 192/24 PCM and DSD output plus many other optimizations.
- Touch is fed by fiber optic ethernet connection assuring total isolation from network disturbances
- Only low noise linear power supplies are used in my system including Touch and fiber optic converter.

.... and I also listen to Pontus connected to my CEC TL51x belt drive CD transport. No significant differences with respect to Touch, indicating that modern USB asyncronous interfaces are not so fussy about sources as in the past. In the Pontus case, we are speaking of the latest Amanero USB card.

With Ares, I also tried it with a Gustard U12 interface between it and the Touch. No differences, and the U12 went sold.

Ah, I have been in this hobby for 30 years and more, and have acquired a pretty large experience in detecting real differences. You surely know that those declaring to be able to hear the sound of any component including ethernet cables or power supplies of a server placed in the other end of the building are NOT superhumans but simply victims of autosuggestion.
 
May 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM Post #969 of 3,907
You mean better or just different ?
I can not say: "R2R ladder technology sounds better than Delta-Sigma technology". So, I mean, different technology sounds different. Ofcourse, some units sounds better than others, but it depends on model (on proprietary technology in each case).
 
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May 24, 2017 at 6:38 PM Post #971 of 3,907
I can not say: "R2R ladder technology sounds better than Delta-Sigma technology". So, I mean, different technology sounds different. Ofcourse, some units sounds better than others, but it depends on model (on proprietary technology in each case).

Hello,

Of course a good implementaton is always important.
But between a gustard X12 and this ares, can I assume ares is head and shoulders ahead ? and well what's the differences ?

The objective is to have balanced output connected to a little dot mkVI+ :wink:

thx
 
May 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM Post #973 of 3,907
Hi, anyone ordered/received any of the higher end DACs like the Pontus or Venus? I am interested in the Venus compated to say Holo Audio Spring Kitsune edition.
I compared Holo Spring level 1 with Ares some times ago, very similar in many features. Consider that Pontus goes much better than Ares, you have the consequences.
Now I have his majesty Terminator.
 
May 25, 2017 at 12:13 PM Post #974 of 3,907
Any plans to a DAC with a preamp particularly analog inputs? I route my turntable through my current DAC Pre (Oppo HA-1) so I can listen through headphones
 

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