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Quote: Originally Posted by rodentmacbeastie Started to forget which thread I was on, sorry. The pointis simple, I have done A/B comparisons running SE and balanced cables to amps placed near speakers before and the results were nothing that could be called close. Hands down, everything...

Quote: Originally Posted by F1GTR Ummm...let's see. What do blind people have to do with you and I? They are human beings with ears. The only conclusion you wan't everyone to come to is that you are correct. Fantastic situation? I'm in complete agreement with hungrych now. You are...

Quote: Originally Posted by F1GTR I feel that with these comments your "logical argument" just lost ALL of its weight. Look at the example of a blind person's other senses being heightened by their lack of vision, specifically them being able to hear things that many other's cannot...

Quote: Originally Posted by plainsong No, it can't, and you just proved it yourself. Two people comparing a picture of a cup to the real cup can and usually will have differing opinions. No two pairs of eyes see the same, no two pairs of ears hear the same People keep saying...

Quote: Originally Posted by aerius No doubt about that. There's still no such thing as a perfect camera and even if there were not everyone would want it. For instance some people will prefer to use supersaturated films such as Fuji Velvia to capture certain scenes, even though it's...

Quote: Originally Posted by hungrych No, you can't. And even if you somehow could, that only appies to that specific recording, not every recording. And what about the influence of all the recording and mixing equipment? Plus most people don't have the benefit of hearing the recording in...

Quote: Originally Posted by PFKMan23 Second of all, as I stated PREVIOUSLY, if you sat in on a recording session and then listened to the playback why couldn't you or, some reasonable person, "...make an assessment as to which is less wrong..."??????? Yes and no. For that recording...

I'm totally baffled. Maybe someone can answer these questions for me because, I guess I don't get it: Don't the recording equipment manufacturers (microphones, new DSD recording software/hardare, mastering techniques, etc.) and playback manufacturers (amplifer, speakers, cables, etc.) all...

Quote: Originally Posted by lini Then again, you could regard an audio setup similarly to placing and lighting a painting, for example. E.g., we might both enjoy the same Rembrandt painting, but maybe you'd rather light it brightly to highlight the texture of the paint, while I might...

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin i am going to bed, just have to agree to disagree. It's 5am here ! 5am??? Yikes. I thought the pubs their closed at 11pm??

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin No the question is how good it is to the USER. We can't all have our definition of accuracy. It's either accurate or it's not. That's not the question at all. The question is, how accurate is the piece which is the standard that HIFI...

Quote: Originally Posted by lini pawlowski6132: Well, you can regard it that way, if you're looking at audio from the hifi perspective. Problem is the reference: How do you know what the recording originally sounds like? Aha!! I was wondering if anyone would mention that. It's an...

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin That just add to/support my argument, thank you ! No, it doesn't. You're missing the whole point. Let's say someone has a signal generator and sends a simple sine wave at 60hz through your system and measures it coming out the other end...

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin Then back to my original answer, is your hearing the same as mine? And by using ears, you are introducing the element of subjectiveness !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think i've dented the wall ..... We can both be...

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin You've just undone your own argument right there. If the science to meansure how goood the headphones are don't exist, who and what is there to measure what is better? how can it be "unbias/impartial" ? You ? me ? the guy sells hotdog down the...

Ok, let me revise my original argument ever so slightly: If we identify a set of defining characteristics of sound/music such as: Timbre Detail Frequency Response Low frequency response etc. I believe we can objectively determine which component is better than another on a one-on-one...

Quote: Originally Posted by JaGWiRE Pawl, does that mean that if grados reproduce a different response graph then sennheisers and different graphs all-together, one brand is better then another? I don't really understand what your saying. Are you saying higher model number = better like...

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin Oh my god............hits head on the wall. If we define good sound by the frequencies it can produce then we can all go home, who needs to test headphones, who need to audition speakers, amps and CD players. Why not look at the chart they are...

Quote: Originally Posted by Thaddy edit: Was this post spurred because some teenager said his iBud's were better than your K1000's? If so, let it go man, he probably doesn't even have hair on his...chest. Ha! That's hilarious!! No, that didn't happen. I just had some spare...

Quote: Originally Posted by raymondlin How do you know what you are listening to is exactly what the other person is listening? This doesn't make sense. It's not subject to interpretation. It is what it is. It can be measured empirically. Let me make a more simple analogy...

Quote: Originally Posted by JaGWiRE Hm, this is interesting. I have hd-600's, and I tell myself that they are cheaper then the 650's and are said to have a different sound, for the better or wose depending on what you listen to and what you like. But are you applying your first post to...

Quote: Originally Posted by 1911 hahahah...perhaps in another lifetime then... It's a date!!

Quote: Originally Posted by 1911 you are so kind and understanding..i want to marry you I'm flattered but, I'm already married. Good luck.

Why is it so natural for people to be able to compare digital camera's, photo printers, TVs etc. and draw objective conclusions about which picture or image is "better." I assume it's because they're frame of reference is all around them. It's clear that, by looking at a picture of someting...