None of the above are facts. The fact is they are opinions. :) Measurements are infinitely more comparable and exact, compared to that (even if none of them can be absolutely perfect). But no need to justify subjective preferences and viewpoints by denigrating measurements. I have e-stats...

On the bass preference topic, this is not at all new, there have been earlier discussions and even research on it - it's not something I pulled out of my head to irritate @angelom. :) https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/why-the-exaggerated-bass.361589/...

Yes, they do, at least infinitely more than your or anyone else's opinions, biased views or wishful thinking. No, they are not irrelevant. If they were, this whole forum was irrelevant.

Maybe. But I am getting the same remarks from colleagues and friends, mostly non-audiophiles, even from people who like bass, for quite a large range of ANC headphones. Based on what I hear from people for a long time, I think this is not exaggerated, but a proper investigation/analysis would be...

Maybe this was discussed earlier: did anyone compare the IO-12 in BT mode with different phones / DAPs, and did you hear differences? I tested with Sony phones, DAPs and iPhones, plus several laptops (Lenovo, Mac, Asus) and each sounded different enough. On which platforms the IO-12 sounds best...

That is an exaggeration: they are not diametrically opposing views. 1. With the given track, the boominess of the IO-12 is less apparent. 2. The quote from @hutzelmeier was > " a somewhat similar soundstage, a surprisingly similar tonality, and sufficient detail" - I can see where does that...

A fair comparison would be if Denon added BT+ANC to the D7200 (currently ~700 eur) -- IMHO that could sound better than (or at least similar to) the IO-12, around similar price. One can also add a Bluetooth receiver/amp to a regular wired headphone, but without ANC -- which is the recommended...

Looks like the Lawton mod, based on how the grey material looks and is cut.

Er... did you really read what I wrote? I am not sure I get the intended meaning of the question. Define your difference between "figuring out" and "impressions"? (I mentioned several months of ownership for the IO-12 - in addition, I have several years of ownership of the other mentioned...

Replying to the original post... (rarely visiting here, sorry for the late reply). Here's what I figured out of the Dali IO-12 drivers after a few months of ownership: - They are far, far better then than drivers in the Dali IO-6 and IO-4: bigger sound stage, more layered, better resolution in...

I don't have long term personal experience with the new D7200, apart from a quick listen, which is why it was mentioned in brackets, but it seems that others here agree the newer D7200 sound better. However, the pads make a far bigger difference in my experience. You can try, if you can. Also...

Sorry for that... I think the D7200 driver failures are statistically pretty low, but when they happen, get a lot of attention and valid criticism (sampling bias). Good it's under warranty. It's not that hot and depends on personal tolerances, but the bass is far-far better than on the D7200...

Yes, I also noticed issued with the IO-12 on Windows and with Teams. Initially I suspected the IO-12 to report misleading Bluetooth information, hence the Teams on Windows problems (for instance it starts at max volume, and you can only attenuate from the control panel mixer). But it works fine...

This belongs to the X9000 or the Stax thread... so it's off-topic here. In my experience, the better headphones get, the harder is to find their best environment, partly because they expose far more weaknesses of upstream than lesser transducers. I have tried many amps with the X9K until one...

That is true. However, people might say that a good e-stat system sounds more than 14x better than the IO-12, it sounds 1000 times better in many respects, actually infinitely better, if they do something the IO-12 does not. That is, the difference is not numerically comparable, it's a...

Now that I "fixed" my own IO-12, I get that the resolution is good, I like it as well, but even though sound stage size might be comparable, the space defined within that sound stage is filled so much more beautifully with my e-stats, I just wonder why do I spend more hours with the IO-12 at...

IIRC it's going to sound better than the D7200 drivers IMHO, but I am curious what you will say.

Very informative post up there! I'd just like to nuance the statement above, as I think the strongest biocellulose driver magnet might actually belong to the TH900, and it's also more sensitive than the D9200 driver, with somewhat bigger dynamic swings. However, after some mods and testing, I'd...

Pretty accurate (in a "review-polite" way), at least gives hints where to check out if personal preferences match the expectations and competition. Since it gets so close to the best ANC sound quality, it also gets more scrutiny and criticism, but it's one of the best ANC headphones to start...

That will be an interesting comparison... Wireless audio is on the rise, also in speakers... In theory, any detachable cord headphone could get wireless adapters (some one stereo, others 2 mono).

Do that for 3 weeks at least, then come back with an update :).

Waiting for the SR-X7000...

Thank you. That is exactly the difference I heard with my DIY cables. Good to know there are commercial cables with similar qualities. No brainer for that price... Looks good, I'd make the same choices. I am also at more ease after the recommendation above. Good luck! :)

All good! How is the sound, compared to the original D7200 cables? The more details, the better :).

Yes, I think that's mentioned in the D9200 specs, also talked about a lot in his thread. In my experience, just the right cable material and crystal structure (manufacturing tech) are necessary, but not sufficient. 1. Structure [and strand geometry] Optimally you want a Litz structure, right...