In my WA5-LE with both NOS pairs the output volume is much lower with the 6C8G than with the 6F8G and if I tried to reach the same volume the sound starts distorting. It seems to me that the driving power is much less.
In my WA5-LE with both NOS pairs the output volume is much lower with the 6C8G than with the 6F8G and if I tried to reach the same volume the sound starts distorting. It seems to me that the driving power is much less.
Strange. In my WA5 and WA6 6C8Gs have the opposite effect. The higher rating of the 6C8G gives a volume boost of around 20 to 30% vs the 6SN7 / 6F8G. Same thing happens in Badas's WA22.
Pic below shows my WA5 with 6C8G NUs driving my HD800s at a comfortable listening level. You can see that the gain knob is around 9 o'clock. 10 o'clock is LOUD and not a level I like to use.
I think there must be differences in the circuit design of the WA5LE vs WA5 for these tubes not to work for you.
Had a similar experience playing about with C3G drivers on the WA5 - these work great on the WA5, but did not work well on a friend's WA234. They also had a very low gain issue and stopped using them.
If you don't mind shipping them to New Zealand I will buy the 6C8Gs from you. PM me if you are interested.
In my WA5-LE with both NOS pairs the output volume is much lower with the 6C8G than with the 6F8G and if I tried to reach the same volume the sound starts distorting. It seems to me that the driving power is much less.
Weird. 6C8g is supose to have a higher gain. Even Jack said it was. In my WA22 gain is a lot higher. Never any distortion either. In Tony's WA5 NU 6F8g distorted and the NU 6C8g gave him higher gain and no distortion.
Nah! I would go to a Glenn rather than another Woo.
Weird. 6C8g is supose to have a higher gain. Even Jack said it was. In my WA22 gain is a lot higher. Never any distortion either. In Tony's WA5 NU 6F8g distorted and the NU 6C8g gave him higher gain and no distortion.
How knows.. my WA5-LE is 5 years old, has all the electronic upgrades and all the internal wiring is Neotech OCC Copper with Cardas Eutectic solder. Right now I am using the Elrog 300B tubes. It is very clear how much lower the volume is when the 6C8G are in compared to the 6F8G.
I'm listening to a pair of NU 6c8g's with my wa22 and noticed higher gain over my sylvania 6f8g's I really love the difference there great sounding tubes..
I have the W4S DAC2 as well. Haven't really had the urge to do the DSD upgrade. I may at some point, but I haven't been dipping into DSD files.
The only thing that has me concerned-- is the sound of the Chord Hugo. Every time I've auditioned the Hugo (and now the Hugo TT), it nudges me closer to pulling out my wallet. It may pry loose the DAC2 from my system at some point.
I have the W4S DAC2 as well. Haven't really had the urge to do the DSD upgrade. I may at some point, but I haven't been dipping into DSD files.
The only thing that has me concerned-- is the sound of the Chord Hugo. Every time I've auditioned the Hugo (and now the Hugo TT), it nudges me closer to pulling out my wallet. It may pry loose the DAC2 from my system at some point.
Two successful approaches between W4S and Chord. The upgrade for the DAC2 is not just about DSD. it is a huge improvement for anything that runs through it.
Starting to think about some 300B's for my WA5. Anyone have any recs here? I've read some great things about Emission Labs recently. Trying to find something that isn't at the high end of the scale.... Best bang for buck. Thanks...
Starting to think about some 300B's for my WA5. Anyone have any recs here? I've read some great things about Emission Labs recently. Trying to find something that isn't at the high end of the scale.... Best bang for buck. Thanks...
If anyone does know of a 300B that is great value for money please let me know too. The 300B tubes that sound nice to my ears have all been pricey.
I can recommend 2 very different 300Bs - neither are cheap.
SERPs - great extension up and down. Decent mids. A little dark. A very good all around performer, but it should be for the price.
EATs - this tube doesn't get much love on the forums and reviews - but I think it is stunning in the right circumstances. Detailed, extended (both ways) and very neutral tube. For instrumental and classical types of listening it is excellent - just don't expect much in the way of mid range magic for vocals.
Sophia website still has them going for $1200 USD. At that price the Takatsukis are perhaps a better buy at around $1800 USD - that is the high end of the high end.
The SERPs have proven to be quite robust for me. I have done many dumb things with them (that I will never do again) and they have keep on going without a problem.
Starting to think about some 300B's for my WA5. Anyone have any recs here? I've read some great things about Emission Labs recently. Trying to find something that isn't at the high end of the scale.... Best bang for buck. Thanks...
If you are going to invest in decent 300B's go for the best and get the Takatsuki's. I understand Woo sell them direct now for a reasonable amount compared to importing them yourself.
I wouldn't buy SERPs at $1200, at that price I agree Takatsuki is probably (because I never heard them) a better buy at $1350 USD from price japan.
Woo sells them for $1620 I believe.
Sophia only sell their 30 days warranty SERP on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/demo-Sophia-Electric-Royal-Princess-300B-tubes-for-Western-2A3-RCA-845-amplifier-/161723108987?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a772ce7b
Office WA5-LE (upgraded) has arrived. Yes, that's a 5/8" bike lock in the background (and not the only security protecting this baby, not by a long shot... if you can steal this and get away with it you deserve it.) I guess I'm keeping the WA6-SE it replaces as a backup for now; it's a great amp for the price, but doesn't hold a candle to 300B.
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