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when i see that i see death magnetic. though apparently a guitar hero version is much better...
Originally Posted by MikeJ138 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'd be careful saying the word "better". Vinyl sounds different than CD. No better. Just different. |
Originally Posted by robm321 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why be careful? It sounds better to me and has for years now I don't clean records, clean the stylus, do all the crazy cartridge and TT set ups, turn the record over, etc, etc, etc to be nastalgic or because it just sounds different. I do it because it is worth it for the increased listening pleasure and IMO increased sound quality over CD. It's fun reading the arguments, but at the end of the day vinyl sounds consistantly better than CD, SACD, DVD-A HDCD. If you don't agree then you are lucky because you can avoid all the hastle and added expense and just press play on your CD player |
Originally Posted by deltaydeltax /img/forum/go_quote.gif It might be interesting to find out how many studios still have an analog setup. Have a good percentage of the major studios gone digital? So, a singers voice is being picked up by an analog microphone, run through some ADCs into a mixing board, then stored on digital media such as a PC? If so, then aren't all of our records now "digital" in a sense? I like vinyl more than anything else, records coming out now may not actually be a true analog source though. Does anyone have any definitive proof of this? I lost my contacts in the recording world a long time ago as I lost interest in recording. |
Originally Posted by nick_charles /img/forum/go_quote.gif Preference is a strange thing no doubt. I find CD sounds preferable to me and has done so since 1984, in those days the players and media were (relatively) expensive and the selection was limited. I went through the achetypical vinyl path in the 1970s/1980s. As I upgraded each step just showed me how technically flawed vinyl really was, the lower rumble on the better TTs allowed me to hear surface noise , end of side noise, mistracking and all sorts of grunty better. By 1984 I could bear it no longer. From CD I get extra enjoyment from the lack of extraneous noise, the rock solid speed control (handy for solo piano) and the utter silence between tracks is an added bonus. I just hit play and relax knowing that I am hearing an accurate rendering of the recorded material. Which to me is what sound quality is all about, ymmv. |
Originally Posted by memepool /img/forum/go_quote.gif This IS amusing. |
Originally Posted by memepool /img/forum/go_quote.gif Apologists for CD often claim it wasn't the format but the incompetant mastering engineers back in the early days. |
Originally Posted by memepool /img/forum/go_quote.gif But nowadays many claim that they are seeking out those exact same early pressings to get away from the over compressed CDs you hear today from the latest generation of incompetant mastering engineers. |
Originally Posted by memepool /img/forum/go_quote.gif mmm....so by this logic when exactly were CDs any good? |
Originally Posted by memepool /img/forum/go_quote.gif and has anyone ever met a competant mastering engineer? I mean logically they must exist right? |
Originally Posted by memepool /img/forum/go_quote.gif So you've obviously never heard a Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox, Studer or top B&O cassette deck which have superior bandwidth to redbook? not nearly as good as reel to reel agreed, but you'd need to be using DSD or top spec PCM , leaving the matter of distortion aside, to equal that right? |
Originally Posted by jp11801 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Mastering engineers are not responding the car audio enthusiasts ... they are responding to the artist and label that want a record as loud as the competition. |
Originally Posted by DrBenway /img/forum/go_quote.gif Absolutely true. But why is that? Could that be because when you are driving around in traffic in your Hummer or your pickup, or some other ridiculous dinosaur vehicle, you can't hear soft passages over the ambient noise? Could it be that these CDs are being mastered with a particular listening environment in mind? Could it be that lifestyle trumps quality? |
Originally Posted by jp11801 /img/forum/go_quote.gif sorry car audio has nothing to do with although radio in general has alot to do with itl, artists have always wanted their track to be as loud as or louder than the competition. Road noise is not the reason for loudness. loudness wars started years prior to car audios heyday it started with jukeboxes and 45s, the louder a 45 the more plays it got no matter how great a song is if it is too soft the kids played it less. |