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May 25, 2013 at 9:22 AM Post #22,441 of 24,807
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if he is able to sell them it means theres a demand for it at that price ( unlike orpheus that he has listed)

Some of his stuff don't even sell. He takes it off or waits for the listing to end. Then bang, a month later the same item is on for sale but $500 more. For those that are buying, they don't realise they are buying them from a seller flipping sales. Which is why he is banned him here.
 
May 25, 2013 at 8:10 PM Post #22,444 of 24,807
Airbow AC1 is based on the SR-404 Signature. Supposedly slightly better sounding due to cryo'd parts but who knows. Spritzer could chime in. Theres one on Yahoo Japan auctions starting auction at 75000 yen and has been there for over 2 months.
 
May 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM Post #22,445 of 24,807
It sounds even better with cryo'd brain cells, just does not come with warranty in that case.
 
So, you can look this up on a google search and Birgir already got it covered. Just to clarify again, and from direct discussion with the sales director of Stax a couple of weeks back: ippinkan is an audio dealer who buys stock products, mods them, and sell them under a different brand. Stax told me they can't do anything about it, anyone is free to buy stuff at dealer cost and sell back in any form an shape. Birgir said before Stax was modifying the 404 specially for them but the official version is that ippinkan is just like another dealer and Stax exclusively sells standard products. They also entirely disassociate themselves from the ippinkan mods, this is not coming from Stax, not approved by Stax, and honestly speaking, you'll never hear Stax promote cryo treatment...
 
Having said that, never heard one, the modded unit may sound good. Apparently they sometimes show up during the fall festival in Tokyo so I could give it a shot at some point.
 
May 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM Post #22,447 of 24,807
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What does cryo treatment mean?

 
 
Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_treatment

cryogenic treatment is the process of treating workpieces to cryogenic temperatures (i.e. below −190 °C (−310 °F)) to remove residual stresses and improve wear resistance on steels.

The process has a wide range of applications from industrial tooling to improvement of musical signal transmission. Some of the benefits of cryogenic treatment include longer part life, less failure due to cracking, improved thermal properties, better electrical properties including less electrical resistance, reduced coefficient of friction, less creep and walk, improved flatness, and easier machining.

 
In other words, bs.
 
 

 
May 25, 2013 at 9:47 PM Post #22,448 of 24,807
If you live in at least sub-arctic conditions, you can just throw that crap in the shed for the winter and you're good
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May 25, 2013 at 11:53 PM Post #22,450 of 24,807
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What does cryo treatment mean?

 
 
Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_treatment

cryogenic treatment is the process of treating workpieces to cryogenic temperatures (i.e. below −190 °C (−310 °F)) to remove residual stresses and improve wear resistance on steels.

The process has a wide range of applications from industrial trolling to improvement of musical signal transmission. Some of the benefits of cryogenic treatment include longer part life, less failure due to cracking, improved thermal properties, better electrical properties including less electrical resistance, reduced coefficient of friction, less creep and walk, improved flatness, and easier machining.

 
In other words, bs.
 
 

Fixed that for you. XD
 
May 26, 2013 at 6:22 AM Post #22,453 of 24,807
The SR-SC1 sounds a lot like the SR-404LE, so much so that it's hard to believe Stax haven't got a hand in the whole deal.  Also, Stax are their own distributor in Japan so the dealers have to talk to them directly.  If they didn't like what they were doing then it would be very easy to not sell them anything.  On top of that, Ippinkan have a very special relationship with Stax as they sell products nobody else sells such as earpads for OOP headphones.... 
 
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Spritzer lol

 
You do realize it's much warmer here that in either the US or northern Europe in the winter? 
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