joshk4
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For me I couldn't tell a difference. So if I had to blind test, I would be guessing (if volume matched).
In my experience planar's don't have "unmatched bass control".Acoustically modding the HD800 helps get rid of the 6khz resonance, EQ only affects the frequency response, with the resonances still being there.
When EQ'd the mid-bass of my HD800 had greater impact than any Audeuze I've tried. Planar magnetics aren't known for their energetic impact IMO, but their control of the bass is unmatched.
On another forum people are suggesting that without balanced signal chain only 30%-50% of the HD800 potential is reached. Do people on here agree with this figure? It is rather higher than I expected I have to say.
Can anyone assist me on deciding between a used Valhalla 2 or used Burson Soloist SL?
This would be an upgrade from the O2, and my source is the schiit modi.
Acoustically modding the HD800 helps get rid of the 6khz resonance, EQ only affects the frequency response, with the resonances still being there.
When EQ'd the mid-bass of my HD800 had greater impact than any Audeuze I've tried. Planar magnetics aren't known for their energetic impact IMO, but their control of the bass is unmatched.
In my experience planar's don't have "unmatched bass control".
Planar's can have impact but they tend to sound like a whump or thud instead of an actual musical note.
IOW they lack resolution and the intonation that 800's can provide.
I agree with you on the approach to eliminate the cause of resonances and reflections instead of fixing the result. But it's not possible to completely eliminate the HD 800's inner reflections, there's simply not enough room for corresponding damping measures. Fortunately those that are possible have a greater audible effect than the measurings would suggest. But to perfection the sound you can't renounce electrical equalizing, and if done in the digital domain it should have none of the side effects of the hardware counterparts.
Ringing is indeed possible with increased frequency bands, especially narrow bandwidths. But keep in mind that all phase distortions from the equalizer theoretically will compensate for the phase distortions produced by the headphone – since every ripple and dip in the amplitude reponse comes with a corresponding phase distortion, so equalizing them theoretically restores a flat phase response as well. Theoretically – because it's not possible to perfectly and exactly equalize the amplitude response of a sound transducer with all its erratic irregularities. After all the ringing produced by an increased frequency band has a beneficial effect in that it erases the «negative» ringing produced by a corresponding dip if the latter and the compensation curve are perfectly congruent.
Hello let me ask a question.
i know this question is better for speaker thread. but there is good kind HD800 users who own loudspeaker also in this thread.
I have been searching loudspeaker setup which has same SQ with well driven HD800.
Is there any good loudspeaker setup outthere for cheap budget? Sould i try new B&W 800 series?
I did bought KEF LS50 pair as jude's recommend at head-fi buying guide of speaker section.
KEF LS50 sound great! They did blown me away. but HD800s little bit sounds better.
but my modded and EQed and well amped HD800s sound better than KEF LS50! I don't know why?
Do you know the reasons? whats wrong with my choice of gear? Please teach me.
here is my headphone/loudspeaker setup
headphone: cheap Marantz CD6005 optical out > SRC2496 >DEQ2496(digital EQer) > some DACs(i change sometimes) > Luxman P-700u > modded HD800 (sounds heaven!)
loudspeaker: Marantz SA11S3 > Marantz PM6005(is this amp too cheap??should i try expensive one?) > KEF LS50
Thank you!(sorry for my bad english! I live in Tokyo)
For me the speakers that I think sound close to the HD-800 are my Magnepan 1.6 for the living room and Rauna TYRs for my lanai, see my profile for the rest of the system.
Hello let me ask a question.
i know this question is better for speaker thread. but there is good kind HD800 users who own loudspeaker also in this thread.
I have been searching loudspeaker setup which has same SQ with well driven HD800.
Is there any good loudspeaker setup outthere for cheap budget? Sould i try new B&W 800 series?
I did bought KEF LS50 pair as jude's recommend at head-fi buying guide of speaker section.
KEF LS50 sound great! They did blown me away. but HD800s little bit sounds better.
but my modded and EQed and well amped HD800s sound better than KEF LS50! I don't know why?
Do you know the reasons? whats wrong with my choice of gear? Please teach me.
here is my headphone/loudspeaker setup
headphone: cheap Marantz CD6005 optical out > SRC2496 >DEQ2496(digital EQer) > some DACs(i change sometimes) > Luxman P-700u > modded HD800 (sounds heaven!)
loudspeaker: Marantz SA11S3 > Marantz PM6005(is this amp too cheap??should i try expensive one?) > KEF LS50
Thank you!(sorry for my bad english! I live in Tokyo)
Thank you very much David for your advice!!! i can buy Magnepan. I will audition them. Thank you.
Thank you very much David for your advice!!! i can buy Magnepan. I will audition them. Thank you.