SOHA II Builders Thread
Jan 20, 2009 at 6:26 PM Post #451 of 1,694
Mouser is out of TL783 until March
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Since I couldn't find an alternative with Mouser, I got one from Digi-Key. I saved a few bucks on the case by getting that from them as well. Of course I ordered some extra supplies that I can't get from Mouser, so I actually spent more
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Is it just me, or did Digi-Key change it's minimum order policy? I thought they used to require a $50 minimum to avoid a handling fee. That no longer seems to be their policy.

Time to start tube hunting
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Jan 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM Post #452 of 1,694
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Originally Posted by runeight /img/forum/go_quote.gif
My understanding (could be wrong) is that the Amveco transformers are rated before regulation and that they pull down below their spec'd values when full current is drawn. I read this, I think, on this thread.

Can anyone verify that this is correct or not? If it is true, then the amveco would not sub in this amp. And, obviously, if I'm wrong, we can put it into the BoM.



I believe Holland reported it is the ANTEK transformers that are rated unloaded (hence their 'enhanced affordability') I have an Amveco on my desk powering my M^3 - a quick measurement and I'll be back...
 
Jan 20, 2009 at 7:42 PM Post #453 of 1,694
18.97V and 19V on each leg under load for an 18V Dual Amveco 62064. These are nice transformers... I'd vote to add it, I believe we left it out originally for cost reasons. Shipping difference will more than compensate.
 
Jan 20, 2009 at 9:00 PM Post #454 of 1,694
When you order tubes, do you get more then 2 of a type?

I just ordered a bunch form vacuumtubes.net. I only got 2 each of 5 different models. Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't have ordered extras.
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Anyway I ordered:
5963
6189
5814A
6922

He said 6922 are upgraded 6DJ8s and they were the most expensive at $25 each. Really nice guys though
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Too bad they were out of 8416's
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I found someone selling them on eBay, so I might pick some up there.
 
Jan 20, 2009 at 10:59 PM Post #455 of 1,694
Just ordered a SOHA II kit from Jeff at glassjaraudio.com. What a nice guy. Since this is my first REAL project, I am sure I will be asking a lot of questions as I go. [At this point, I have only made a cmoy, guitar hp amp from a kit and modded my X-can (installed new caps/diodes).] I figure that this will be a real learning experience. Anyway, I hope I don't kill myself or catch anything on fire. It would be even better if the amp actually works and sounds good at some point in the future.
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Jan 21, 2009 at 1:19 AM Post #456 of 1,694
Quote:

My understanding (could be wrong) is that the Amveco transformers are rated before regulation and that they pull down below their spec'd values when full current is drawn. I read this, I think, on this thread.

Can anyone verify that this is correct or not? If it is true, then the amveco would not sub in this amp. And, obviously, if I'm wrong, we can put it into the BoM.


I'd like to know this too, as I bought that Amveco in the original BOM. I have the rev1.1 board and haven't built the amp yet.

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Are we talking cognitive dissonance here?


No. It's the fact that we really do, to a large extent, judge books by their covers. A good chef knows that their food always tastes better when presented well, for example.
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 1:42 AM Post #457 of 1,694
I have finished my build and am running through the setup. I got to measuring the voltage of TB+ and got 124 volts, not 103 volts. Is this a problem and if so what are likely culprits?
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 1:53 AM Post #458 of 1,694
I just did a better search and saw that if none of the jumpers are jumpered that my high voltage is ok.
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 2:10 AM Post #459 of 1,694
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I just did a better search and saw that if none of the jumpers are jumpered that my high voltage is ok.


Strong work!
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 2:15 AM Post #460 of 1,694
I just checked the Amveco catalog - published ratings are under load, and include an unloaded voltage (higher than spec).

The 35 VA specs:

Part: 62073
Secondary Full Load: 2x15
Current mA:1166
No Load Voltage: 2x17.6

There's also a 50VA for the high current version:
Part:62083
Secondary Full Load: 2x15
Current mA:1666
No Load Voltage: 2x17.3
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 2:30 AM Post #461 of 1,694
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When you order tubes, do you get more then 2 of a type?


I usually order only (claimed!) tested tubes in pairs, mostly from flea-bay. As noted elsewhere in this thread, exact tube matching is not so critical with the design of this amp.

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Too bad they were out of 8416's
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I found someone selling them on eBay, so I might pick some up there.



Sounds like a nice assortment to start rolling. I got Amperex 8416's here:

Vacuum Tubes, Inc. New Audio and Western Electric Tubes for Hi Fi and Guitar Amplifiers

But they were cheaper when I bought 'em!
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 3:08 AM Post #462 of 1,694
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Originally Posted by lacrossebowe8 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I just did a better search and saw that if none of the jumpers are jumpered that my high voltage is ok.


And so, is everything else working ok too?
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 3:43 AM Post #463 of 1,694
Quote:

I just checked the Amveco catalog - published ratings are under load, and include an unloaded voltage (higher than spec).

The 35 VA specs:

Part: 62073
Secondary Full Load: 2x15
Current mA:1166
No Load Voltage: 2x17.6


Thanks for checking into that Wiatrob.

I picked up the Amveco from the original BOM - the 62063.
It is rated at 1.7A - is that going to be enough for the high voltage rev1.1?

EDIT - I see that this is 1.7A parallel and 25VA - do I have a problem then?
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 3:47 AM Post #464 of 1,694
I just finished everything and am listening to some music. Sounds good. I will post some impressions later. I am using sr-80's but usually use sr-225's and I am hoping to pick up some senn 650's soon. Pictures and more to come. Thanks for a great amp design.
 
Jan 21, 2009 at 3:54 AM Post #465 of 1,694
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Thanks for checking into that Wiatrob.

I picked up the Amveco from the original BOM - the 62063.
It is rated at 1.7A - is that going to be enough for the high voltage rev1.1?

EDIT - I see that this is 1.7A parallel and 25VA - do I have a problem then?



You might have a problem with 850mA in series usage. But try it and see. We may ask for a few voltage measurements to check this. And these measurements are not available at the test points, but they mey measure the input voltages to the regulators. If these are too low the regulators will not regulate properly. If so, you may need to select an alternative trafo.
 

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