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Just got back from the meet and I'm really tired so the impressions will be kept somewhat short but I listened to the 780's today and....I don't like them at all. I don't understand the hype about them after listening to them.
The bass is simply toooooo much. The highs feel more pronounced (didn't think that was possible after hearing many people complaining about the Proline-highs, but it is) and at times they even hurt my ears. The headphones were fully burned in, like had 500hrs on them so that's not the problem. I listened to them via the Larocco and Ipod.
The music I listened to was Talkie Walkie from Air, some stuff from Pleymo to check out how they handle the metal-part and to see how they would cope with more 'busy' music. I also listened to Pink Floyd.
With Air, the song was Alone in Kyoto for example, it sounded not too bad except for the bass. Compared to the Proline 750's they are less transparant, have more pronounced mids and highs and because of that I think it's more difficult to listen to each part in the music seperately which is something I really like about the 750's. (I don't know if it's because of that, I'm not knowlegable enough to describe it properly I guess).
I decided to feed them Pleymo which is really heavy stuff, with lots of different things in it to see how they would handle it. Disgusting. The bass went real low but it sounded muddy and absolutely awfull. Way too much there. You have a certain string in one song which was so piercing they hurt my ears. They have absolutely no control when it gets heavier in the music. The 750's are much calmer to listen to and you can focus on everything seperately without losing harmony. Their bass is not bloated and stays very controlled whatever you throw at them. Yes, I am a 750 fangirl, simply because I like them. If you find the 750's to bright or not like fun and because of that you wanna hear/have the 780's please look into the Proline 650's. Much more pleasant to the ears. I also enjoyed the 680's more because they had less bass. They did sounded a little flat to me but much much more pleasant than the 780's.
I also don't understand why they are being compared with the ED9's, they are totally different animals. Qua presentation of sound, control and transparancy the Prolines resemble them way more.
Oh, one good thing about them, they were quite comfy!
They isolated better than the 750 probably because of the pleather.
P.S. please forgive my noobish way of descibing my impressions, but I hope they make sense and you can catch my drift.
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You're more than entitled to your opinion here.
I think one thing you might have missed is that typically the 780s that have been compared to the Ed 9 were the ALO recabled version. I think at this point it's not even considered "hype", as several experienced Head-fi members have made the same observation. I would say that there is a lot to these headphones that cannot be compared upon first listen.
I can also understand why you would find them harsh coming from a (comparatively) laid-back can like the 750s. These headphones are right in your face, especially for rock. They are very much like a punch in the face if you aren't prepared for their sound signature. My Denon C700s were much the same way, the mids are just SO overpowering until your ears become accustomed to them.
Keep in mind also that these are $200 (or $250) cans. They might not sound as refined as the 750s and especially the Ed. 9s for good reason, as that is a plateau that is nearly impossible to reach.
I will agree with you that some songs have certain notes that force me to turn the music down (particularly something with a very sharp repeating beat, like claps that have been overemphasized for the sake of those that use iBuds), but by and large I feel the sound is respectively balanced, if unapologetic. The 780s seem to just pack as much sound as possible into them for the price, therefore you hear a lot of detail, but again, it's not as refined as it could be. Which is where the ALO 780s probably succeed: They take the detail from the cans, and resolve everything better.
I really think the 780s are an acquired taste, especially with rock music. Going from HD600s to SR-60s would be a mindwarp, much like these headphones can really put you off if you haven't acclimated yourself to them.
I will say this though: Man, I am loving these cans. I can certainly say they aren't for everyone, but I'm listening to Atreyu as I type this, and I can hear so many little notes of detail that I've never heard before. Just little pitchfalls and rises that usually bleed into the background. It makes the entire listening experience much more enjoyable.