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Headphoneus Supremus
[This review was excerpted from the PL750 v. D2000 thread. I will be closing out my posts there shortly and moving the discussion to this thread.)
06/06/08
Very First Impressions (and Recollections of the Proline750)
[Tubes: 1x Generis 6SN7GTB (Japan) & 2x Raytheon 6SN7GT]
Just got the D2000 in-house: a nice-looking, nice-feeling and nice-fitting set of headphones. I like the look and finish of the composite material Denon developed for the ear cups, too.
While they are definitely bass-prominent, their bass is not as extended or controlled as the PL750 (to the best of my recollection). The D2000, to my ears, are a bit fat in the lower midbass, and not as textured or articulate as the PL750.
The Denon's highs are fairly good, smoother and more delicate/refined-sounding than the PL750. I wouldn't go quite as far as to say that the D2000 are more extended in the treble, though.
Mids on the D2000 are smooth and sweetish. With the PL750 the mids were more raw and visceral to my ears, with an almost haunting immediacy with female vocals.
Overall, the D2000 strike me as less neutral and more "fun" sounding than the PL750. The D2000's over-emphasis in the bass can make them sound slower to me, too. With the smooth, sweet mids and highs, the D2000 wax just a bit too syrupy (read: euphonic) for my listening tastes.
NOTE: (a) These are my first, unchecked stream-of-consciousness impressions, but I must be honest and say that I don't particular like the D2000 right out of the chute.
(b) I bought my D2000 used, two months old and, according to the seller they were reportedly "well burned in.” I think I remember reading that it does take a while for the D2000's bass to settle down and tighten up (300+ hours). Right now its lower mid bass is tubby and fatiguing for my ears. It very well may be a burn in issue at this point, however.
Do the D2000 and the Bada PH-12 Match Well?
IMHE, I heard no hum or edginess while using the Bada with the D2000, just fatiguingly prominent/uncomfortably percussive lower mid bass. [Contrary to popular belief, I also witnessed excellent synergy between the Bada and Grado 325i (given careful tube selection).]
Having said that, the D2000's 25 ohm impedance is outside the Bada's published 30 to 600 ohm design range; information which gave me reservations about purchasing the D2000 in the first place. Next week, I would like to try the Denon with my (SS) AVR-1905 and listen for appreciable differences, positive and/or negative.
Interesting how impedance mismatching apparently seems to exacerbate the Grado's treble prominence and the Denon's bass prominence. I don't know enough about this topic at all, in terms of understanding its disparate effects on two very different-sounding headphones.
06/09/08
The Bada Re-tubed and the D2000 Re-visited
[Tubes: 1x Sylvania 6SN7GTA & 2x Raytheon 6SN7GT]
Just re-tubed with a Sylvania 6SN7GTA driver (while keeping the 2x Raytheon 6SN7GT in place). Also, switched my DakiOm F203* (Dr. Kim Dao's feedback stabilizer that interfaces between the amp and headphones via the 1/4" SE jack) with an earlier experimental/beta version that has a wider impedance tolerance. No hum, background is very quiet with no music playing through the Bada.
The "tubby" bass has settled down, strengthened, deepened a little and become less concussion-inducing. The D2000 sound nice and weighty, open and smooth, but without the euphonic tinge of last Friday. Highs are smooth and detailed; ditto for the midrange. While still sounding bass-prominent, the Denon's balance is more believable and correspondingly enjoyable. Speed, pace and timing are also much improved from last Friday's first foray, with no sluggishness or syrupiness evident.
Will keep the D2000 on all day today. Right now Paul McCartney's "Let 'em In" sounds very, very good, with McCartney's bass pushing and driving the piece well.
Thank God for the Sylvania 6SN7GTA! : ) Tomorrow, God willing, I'll exchange the Raytheons with 2x CBS 6SN7GT, which are leaner, quicker tubes (in an attempt to further rein in the bass). And we'll see what happens. (Keep in mind that the guy sharing these observations prefers the likes of the AKG K501, Etymotic ER-4S, Sony MDR-SA5000, etc.)
Just put on The Glenn Miller Orchestra's In the Digital Mood (GRP records).
(1) The title track moves along just swell, with fairly clean differentiation and respectable resolution of the various brass instruments. The bass lines are well established and well articulated, rhythmic and easy to follow without being overly obtrusive.
(2) Vocals on "Chattanooga Choo-Choo" are clear and velvety smooth; transients sound crisp and nicely balanced. Damping of the final cymbal hit was prolonged and enjoyable.
(3) "String of Pearls" (undoubtedly, one of my all-time favorite Glenn Miller compositions) is served well by the D2000. On this cut I began to notice and appreciate their bass solidity and definition, together with a openness and delicacy in the highs and mids, especially in the mellow, mounting first few measures of this quintessential swing standard.
(4) The Denon handle the wide-ranging dynamic arcs of "Tuxedo Junction" skillfully, moving from a few trickling measures on the piano with a polite high hat and a few lazy muted horns to full-belting brass sections, stomping kick drum and loud cymbal crashes, with a remarkable ease.
(5) The D2000 gave me a lot to like with "Pennsylvania 6-5000." Saxophone arrangements were rich, sonorous and smooth without losing a sense of liveliness. I especially enjoy hearing the telephone ring—always did on this song—then the male vocals chiming in in unison with "Pennsylvania 6-5000!" This has been one of my favorite swing pieces since I was in my teens (when cigarettes were only 48 cents a pack). : )
Yes, the D2000 do indeed swing, and have captured my undivided attention with these tracks (which are not recorded bass-heavily to begin with, BTW). : )
In short: I've finally gotten my AH-D2000 "ears on"—and I like what's been going on in them for the last 40 minutes or so! And I hasten to add that the Proline 750 (to the best of my recollection) never sounded as rich, smooth and refined as the D2000 do today. : )
*An Unabashed PLUG (literally) for DakiOm:
If you have not tried DakiOms, you really should. With the 30-day money-back policy (that Kim Dao responsibly honors) you can't go wrong—they're worth a try at least. I've used them (R203, HR203, MA203 and F203) in my systems for several years with great success, so much that I consider them “indispensable” tweaks. Everything seems to work more efficiently and synergistically with the negative Feedback Stabilizers in place.
Here's the DakiOm link:
DakiOm - The Power of True Sound - Audio Accessories For Improving The Sound Quality of Audio Systems. Discover Dakiom Feedback Stabilizers!
O.K. They Swing. But can the D2000 Rock?
The cd, Santana (Columbia Legacy SBM re-master), an arguably "bassy" recording for starters, sounded too much of just that with the D2000. The lower mid bass in particular simply overpowered every cut on this album, squelching the high and middle frequencies and casting a bit of a pall above everything. The highs and mids were good, once I "normalized" the excess bass as best I could, but the entire cd sounded, to my ears, gorged with lower mid bass.
Classic Country to the Rescue
For some temporary relief, I got out the compilation, Country U.S.A. 1960, a collection of what, for-the-most-part, typically tended to be thin- or sharp-sounding recordings over the K501 and K701. Coupled with the lean driver tube (Sylvania 6SN7GTA), I thought of this as the "Slimfast" approach to reducing the Denon's excess bass weight.
Here, the D2000's warmth and familiar smoothness were both welcome and positively (and predictably) effective.
(1) Cowboy Copas' "Back to Alabam'" sounded warm and balanced, with detailed ring from the strings, and full-bodied tone from the belly of the lead acoustic guitar, and classic but not overly-biting twang in the pedal steel. In addition, Copas' voice was filled out very nicely and credibly by the D2000.
(2) Hank Thompson's vocal was smooth, deep, detailed and and alluring—if you can imagine that—on "Six Pack to Go."
(3) The D2000 smoothed some of the recorded glare from Hank Snow's voice on "Miller's Cave," but without hiding its goose-billed honkiness, either.
(4) Even Bobby Bonds' "Hot Rod Lincoln" came across with a vocal depth and warmth I'd never heard before but which, at the same time, sounded natural and not artificially induced.
In brief, this, by-and-large, is best this cd ever sounded to my ears (with the possible exception of the fairly bass-tilted recording of Johnny Horton's "North to Alaska").
Rock and Roll, Part 2.
The Very Best of Eric Burdon and the Animals 1966-1968 (PolyGram). Another attack of the pesky blood-slurping Transylvanian's cousin, the balance-draining "Count Bass-y." Too much lower midbass, and unfocused lower midbass at that. "See See Rider" was bullied nigh out of control by the Denon's brash bass overstatement.
Aside from that—and it's a big "that", I liked what the D2000 did for these recordings, though. Everything but the bass sounded great on "Hey Gyp" (especially the key strikes on organ/keyboard work). The bass-light, monoraul "Sandoz" was (predictably) well rendered by the D2000. On more positive notes, the bass on "San Francisco Nights" sounded a tad better controlled. By the time I queued up "Monterey," the bass was sounding surprisingly good: deep, fairly taut and articulate. On "White Houses," the bass sounded positively prodigious! At this point, I attributed the bass bloat catalogued earlier to deficiencies in the recording; either that or I—having lapsed into a state of auditory denial to rationalize my purchase of the Denon—had by now fully acclimated to the bass-prominent "overcast skies." : )
Next, some 60's pop: Spankey and Our Gang's Greatest Hits (Mercury). One of the D2000's particularly emerging strengths—at least for me, today—is their ability to miraculously breathe new life and warmth into an old recording. This cd is a case in point. Never have I heard these tracks portrayed with such smoothness and ease, but at the same time with a heretofore never-before achieved (or discernible) level of detail. And the Denon's bassiness is again working favorably. Wow! Where did that bold, moving bass line come from on "Lazy Day"? It really brings a new and positively additive dimension to these old tracks. And it isn't indiscriminate dark fuzz, either; it is full, rich, articulate bass from an old, un-remastered collection of songs that I would have thought until now had no "real" bass to speak of. The bass lines on "And She's Mine" were incredibly well articulated.
Are these the same headphones I put on this morning??? : ) : ) : )
Needless to say, this entire cd was a joy to experience through the D2000. They can pull of the seemingly impossible—or at least the curiously paradoxical; that is, they can be forgiving, but correspondingly more revealing at the same time. Until now, I've had a similar experience with only one other product, the K340. Now that's something the Proline 750 cannot/couldn't do, either, IMHO! : )
Rock and Roll, Part 3:
The D2000 did a fine job with Creedence Clearwater Revival's Chronicle collection (Fantasy). Bass was deep, fairly plucky and, as it were, effortlessly controlled on "Down on the Corner."
Go figure. Maybe these headphones were not actually fully burned as I was told when purchasing them. Or maybe, being thrice bitten . . . I'm undergoing the . . . transformation . . . into . . . a . . . —No! This cannot be, cannot be! I say, happening to me!— I’m turning . . . into a BASS head! (I'm having a difficult time biting back a fiendish giggle right about now.) : )
D2000 and (What I Recall About) the ATH-A900LTD
Being not an altogether unwitting accessory to hijacking, I would say—concluding [be advised] from my longterm memory—that the A900LTD lacked the high frequency extension, the low frequency extension, the openness and the drive of the D2000. Like the D2000, the A900LTD did a lot of things well, just not quite (and perhaps not nearly) as well, IMHO, as the D2000.
Hearing the D2000 for the first time brought the A900LTD immediately to my mind. To me, the D2000 are everything that I wistfully hoped the A900 could have been--and more. The A900, in the end and to my ears (immediately before I composed their FS thread), just couldn't quite escape beyond the borders of "so-so."
My goodness, I just requeued "She's Mine" from the Spankey and Our Gang cd for the third time! The bass is absolutely superlative on this cut: deep and articulate, but smooth and creamy at the same time. Yum! Yum! : ) And while the bass may have (just barely) gotten this deep with the Proline 750, it certainly was never as liquidy and tantalizing as it is on the D2000 right now.
Bassfully Yours,
PAB
D2000 and (What I [further] Recall About) the Ultrasone Proline 750
Right now, I have the D2000 leading by nearly three lengths over the Proline 750 of erstwhile memory. Keep in mind that, while it has been been several months since I last donned the PL750, my Prolines were RAL re-cabled, no less. For a closed headphone—and my field of expertise is by no means exhaustive in this area (re: ATH-A900LTD, PL750, K340 and D2000)—the D2000 are the best I've heard so far.
And at current street prices, the Denon are a better bargain to boot, IMHO. : )
Note, too, that the D2000 do scale up quite well when amped, sounding less laid back and more open and detailed from top to bottom. (Run straight out of my computer, the D2000 do not achieve appreciable volume and lack “kick.”) I would venture to say that they even acquire more airiness when amped. So it sounds like the D2000 are headphones you can enjoy unamped then, after you get an after you get an amp—should you choose to do so later on, headphones you can enjoy a whole lot more! : )
Monday Evening Ruminations about the D2000’s Bass Response
My experience with the D2000 earlier today seemed to be recording-dependent. On some tracks (like Santana's "Persuasion"), the Denon sounded sloppy (with too much lower mid bass), but on other tracks (like Spankey and Our Gang's "And She's Mine"), the D2000's bass was deep, tight and amazingly articulate.
Funny, depending on what cut I was listening to at the time, the D2000 conveyed some of the best bass, or some of the worst bass, I've ever heard, which leads me to believe that the Denon are well-resolving in the lower frequencies, and that the recordings themselves and not the D2000 in particular may be the source of perceived anomalies in the bass region.
You know, I often take it for granted that the bass on most songs is well-recorded, but that may not be true (and in every single case, it is certainly not true). If harsh, tinny treble can be attributable to faulty recording—and discernible with headphones that resolve well in that frequency range (e.g. the Sony MDR-SA5000 or Grado SR-325i), then why not extend the analogy to recordings with poor bass and headphones with especially fine bass resolution (e.g. [I submit] the Denon D2000)?
06/06/08
Very First Impressions (and Recollections of the Proline750)
[Tubes: 1x Generis 6SN7GTB (Japan) & 2x Raytheon 6SN7GT]
Just got the D2000 in-house: a nice-looking, nice-feeling and nice-fitting set of headphones. I like the look and finish of the composite material Denon developed for the ear cups, too.
While they are definitely bass-prominent, their bass is not as extended or controlled as the PL750 (to the best of my recollection). The D2000, to my ears, are a bit fat in the lower midbass, and not as textured or articulate as the PL750.
The Denon's highs are fairly good, smoother and more delicate/refined-sounding than the PL750. I wouldn't go quite as far as to say that the D2000 are more extended in the treble, though.
Mids on the D2000 are smooth and sweetish. With the PL750 the mids were more raw and visceral to my ears, with an almost haunting immediacy with female vocals.
Overall, the D2000 strike me as less neutral and more "fun" sounding than the PL750. The D2000's over-emphasis in the bass can make them sound slower to me, too. With the smooth, sweet mids and highs, the D2000 wax just a bit too syrupy (read: euphonic) for my listening tastes.
NOTE: (a) These are my first, unchecked stream-of-consciousness impressions, but I must be honest and say that I don't particular like the D2000 right out of the chute.
(b) I bought my D2000 used, two months old and, according to the seller they were reportedly "well burned in.” I think I remember reading that it does take a while for the D2000's bass to settle down and tighten up (300+ hours). Right now its lower mid bass is tubby and fatiguing for my ears. It very well may be a burn in issue at this point, however.
Do the D2000 and the Bada PH-12 Match Well?
IMHE, I heard no hum or edginess while using the Bada with the D2000, just fatiguingly prominent/uncomfortably percussive lower mid bass. [Contrary to popular belief, I also witnessed excellent synergy between the Bada and Grado 325i (given careful tube selection).]
Having said that, the D2000's 25 ohm impedance is outside the Bada's published 30 to 600 ohm design range; information which gave me reservations about purchasing the D2000 in the first place. Next week, I would like to try the Denon with my (SS) AVR-1905 and listen for appreciable differences, positive and/or negative.
Interesting how impedance mismatching apparently seems to exacerbate the Grado's treble prominence and the Denon's bass prominence. I don't know enough about this topic at all, in terms of understanding its disparate effects on two very different-sounding headphones.
06/09/08
The Bada Re-tubed and the D2000 Re-visited
[Tubes: 1x Sylvania 6SN7GTA & 2x Raytheon 6SN7GT]
Just re-tubed with a Sylvania 6SN7GTA driver (while keeping the 2x Raytheon 6SN7GT in place). Also, switched my DakiOm F203* (Dr. Kim Dao's feedback stabilizer that interfaces between the amp and headphones via the 1/4" SE jack) with an earlier experimental/beta version that has a wider impedance tolerance. No hum, background is very quiet with no music playing through the Bada.
The "tubby" bass has settled down, strengthened, deepened a little and become less concussion-inducing. The D2000 sound nice and weighty, open and smooth, but without the euphonic tinge of last Friday. Highs are smooth and detailed; ditto for the midrange. While still sounding bass-prominent, the Denon's balance is more believable and correspondingly enjoyable. Speed, pace and timing are also much improved from last Friday's first foray, with no sluggishness or syrupiness evident.
Will keep the D2000 on all day today. Right now Paul McCartney's "Let 'em In" sounds very, very good, with McCartney's bass pushing and driving the piece well.
Thank God for the Sylvania 6SN7GTA! : ) Tomorrow, God willing, I'll exchange the Raytheons with 2x CBS 6SN7GT, which are leaner, quicker tubes (in an attempt to further rein in the bass). And we'll see what happens. (Keep in mind that the guy sharing these observations prefers the likes of the AKG K501, Etymotic ER-4S, Sony MDR-SA5000, etc.)
Just put on The Glenn Miller Orchestra's In the Digital Mood (GRP records).
(1) The title track moves along just swell, with fairly clean differentiation and respectable resolution of the various brass instruments. The bass lines are well established and well articulated, rhythmic and easy to follow without being overly obtrusive.
(2) Vocals on "Chattanooga Choo-Choo" are clear and velvety smooth; transients sound crisp and nicely balanced. Damping of the final cymbal hit was prolonged and enjoyable.
(3) "String of Pearls" (undoubtedly, one of my all-time favorite Glenn Miller compositions) is served well by the D2000. On this cut I began to notice and appreciate their bass solidity and definition, together with a openness and delicacy in the highs and mids, especially in the mellow, mounting first few measures of this quintessential swing standard.
(4) The Denon handle the wide-ranging dynamic arcs of "Tuxedo Junction" skillfully, moving from a few trickling measures on the piano with a polite high hat and a few lazy muted horns to full-belting brass sections, stomping kick drum and loud cymbal crashes, with a remarkable ease.
(5) The D2000 gave me a lot to like with "Pennsylvania 6-5000." Saxophone arrangements were rich, sonorous and smooth without losing a sense of liveliness. I especially enjoy hearing the telephone ring—always did on this song—then the male vocals chiming in in unison with "Pennsylvania 6-5000!" This has been one of my favorite swing pieces since I was in my teens (when cigarettes were only 48 cents a pack). : )
Yes, the D2000 do indeed swing, and have captured my undivided attention with these tracks (which are not recorded bass-heavily to begin with, BTW). : )
In short: I've finally gotten my AH-D2000 "ears on"—and I like what's been going on in them for the last 40 minutes or so! And I hasten to add that the Proline 750 (to the best of my recollection) never sounded as rich, smooth and refined as the D2000 do today. : )
*An Unabashed PLUG (literally) for DakiOm:
If you have not tried DakiOms, you really should. With the 30-day money-back policy (that Kim Dao responsibly honors) you can't go wrong—they're worth a try at least. I've used them (R203, HR203, MA203 and F203) in my systems for several years with great success, so much that I consider them “indispensable” tweaks. Everything seems to work more efficiently and synergistically with the negative Feedback Stabilizers in place.
Here's the DakiOm link:
DakiOm - The Power of True Sound - Audio Accessories For Improving The Sound Quality of Audio Systems. Discover Dakiom Feedback Stabilizers!
O.K. They Swing. But can the D2000 Rock?
The cd, Santana (Columbia Legacy SBM re-master), an arguably "bassy" recording for starters, sounded too much of just that with the D2000. The lower mid bass in particular simply overpowered every cut on this album, squelching the high and middle frequencies and casting a bit of a pall above everything. The highs and mids were good, once I "normalized" the excess bass as best I could, but the entire cd sounded, to my ears, gorged with lower mid bass.
Classic Country to the Rescue
For some temporary relief, I got out the compilation, Country U.S.A. 1960, a collection of what, for-the-most-part, typically tended to be thin- or sharp-sounding recordings over the K501 and K701. Coupled with the lean driver tube (Sylvania 6SN7GTA), I thought of this as the "Slimfast" approach to reducing the Denon's excess bass weight.
Here, the D2000's warmth and familiar smoothness were both welcome and positively (and predictably) effective.
(1) Cowboy Copas' "Back to Alabam'" sounded warm and balanced, with detailed ring from the strings, and full-bodied tone from the belly of the lead acoustic guitar, and classic but not overly-biting twang in the pedal steel. In addition, Copas' voice was filled out very nicely and credibly by the D2000.
(2) Hank Thompson's vocal was smooth, deep, detailed and and alluring—if you can imagine that—on "Six Pack to Go."
(3) The D2000 smoothed some of the recorded glare from Hank Snow's voice on "Miller's Cave," but without hiding its goose-billed honkiness, either.
(4) Even Bobby Bonds' "Hot Rod Lincoln" came across with a vocal depth and warmth I'd never heard before but which, at the same time, sounded natural and not artificially induced.
In brief, this, by-and-large, is best this cd ever sounded to my ears (with the possible exception of the fairly bass-tilted recording of Johnny Horton's "North to Alaska").
Rock and Roll, Part 2.
The Very Best of Eric Burdon and the Animals 1966-1968 (PolyGram). Another attack of the pesky blood-slurping Transylvanian's cousin, the balance-draining "Count Bass-y." Too much lower midbass, and unfocused lower midbass at that. "See See Rider" was bullied nigh out of control by the Denon's brash bass overstatement.
Aside from that—and it's a big "that", I liked what the D2000 did for these recordings, though. Everything but the bass sounded great on "Hey Gyp" (especially the key strikes on organ/keyboard work). The bass-light, monoraul "Sandoz" was (predictably) well rendered by the D2000. On more positive notes, the bass on "San Francisco Nights" sounded a tad better controlled. By the time I queued up "Monterey," the bass was sounding surprisingly good: deep, fairly taut and articulate. On "White Houses," the bass sounded positively prodigious! At this point, I attributed the bass bloat catalogued earlier to deficiencies in the recording; either that or I—having lapsed into a state of auditory denial to rationalize my purchase of the Denon—had by now fully acclimated to the bass-prominent "overcast skies." : )
Next, some 60's pop: Spankey and Our Gang's Greatest Hits (Mercury). One of the D2000's particularly emerging strengths—at least for me, today—is their ability to miraculously breathe new life and warmth into an old recording. This cd is a case in point. Never have I heard these tracks portrayed with such smoothness and ease, but at the same time with a heretofore never-before achieved (or discernible) level of detail. And the Denon's bassiness is again working favorably. Wow! Where did that bold, moving bass line come from on "Lazy Day"? It really brings a new and positively additive dimension to these old tracks. And it isn't indiscriminate dark fuzz, either; it is full, rich, articulate bass from an old, un-remastered collection of songs that I would have thought until now had no "real" bass to speak of. The bass lines on "And She's Mine" were incredibly well articulated.
Are these the same headphones I put on this morning??? : ) : ) : )
Needless to say, this entire cd was a joy to experience through the D2000. They can pull of the seemingly impossible—or at least the curiously paradoxical; that is, they can be forgiving, but correspondingly more revealing at the same time. Until now, I've had a similar experience with only one other product, the K340. Now that's something the Proline 750 cannot/couldn't do, either, IMHO! : )
Rock and Roll, Part 3:
The D2000 did a fine job with Creedence Clearwater Revival's Chronicle collection (Fantasy). Bass was deep, fairly plucky and, as it were, effortlessly controlled on "Down on the Corner."
Go figure. Maybe these headphones were not actually fully burned as I was told when purchasing them. Or maybe, being thrice bitten . . . I'm undergoing the . . . transformation . . . into . . . a . . . —No! This cannot be, cannot be! I say, happening to me!— I’m turning . . . into a BASS head! (I'm having a difficult time biting back a fiendish giggle right about now.) : )
D2000 and (What I Recall About) the ATH-A900LTD
Being not an altogether unwitting accessory to hijacking, I would say—concluding [be advised] from my longterm memory—that the A900LTD lacked the high frequency extension, the low frequency extension, the openness and the drive of the D2000. Like the D2000, the A900LTD did a lot of things well, just not quite (and perhaps not nearly) as well, IMHO, as the D2000.
Hearing the D2000 for the first time brought the A900LTD immediately to my mind. To me, the D2000 are everything that I wistfully hoped the A900 could have been--and more. The A900, in the end and to my ears (immediately before I composed their FS thread), just couldn't quite escape beyond the borders of "so-so."
My goodness, I just requeued "She's Mine" from the Spankey and Our Gang cd for the third time! The bass is absolutely superlative on this cut: deep and articulate, but smooth and creamy at the same time. Yum! Yum! : ) And while the bass may have (just barely) gotten this deep with the Proline 750, it certainly was never as liquidy and tantalizing as it is on the D2000 right now.
Bassfully Yours,
PAB
D2000 and (What I [further] Recall About) the Ultrasone Proline 750
Right now, I have the D2000 leading by nearly three lengths over the Proline 750 of erstwhile memory. Keep in mind that, while it has been been several months since I last donned the PL750, my Prolines were RAL re-cabled, no less. For a closed headphone—and my field of expertise is by no means exhaustive in this area (re: ATH-A900LTD, PL750, K340 and D2000)—the D2000 are the best I've heard so far.
And at current street prices, the Denon are a better bargain to boot, IMHO. : )
Note, too, that the D2000 do scale up quite well when amped, sounding less laid back and more open and detailed from top to bottom. (Run straight out of my computer, the D2000 do not achieve appreciable volume and lack “kick.”) I would venture to say that they even acquire more airiness when amped. So it sounds like the D2000 are headphones you can enjoy unamped then, after you get an after you get an amp—should you choose to do so later on, headphones you can enjoy a whole lot more! : )
Monday Evening Ruminations about the D2000’s Bass Response
My experience with the D2000 earlier today seemed to be recording-dependent. On some tracks (like Santana's "Persuasion"), the Denon sounded sloppy (with too much lower mid bass), but on other tracks (like Spankey and Our Gang's "And She's Mine"), the D2000's bass was deep, tight and amazingly articulate.
Funny, depending on what cut I was listening to at the time, the D2000 conveyed some of the best bass, or some of the worst bass, I've ever heard, which leads me to believe that the Denon are well-resolving in the lower frequencies, and that the recordings themselves and not the D2000 in particular may be the source of perceived anomalies in the bass region.
You know, I often take it for granted that the bass on most songs is well-recorded, but that may not be true (and in every single case, it is certainly not true). If harsh, tinny treble can be attributable to faulty recording—and discernible with headphones that resolve well in that frequency range (e.g. the Sony MDR-SA5000 or Grado SR-325i), then why not extend the analogy to recordings with poor bass and headphones with especially fine bass resolution (e.g. [I submit] the Denon D2000)?