What??? Hi, first post, long time lurker, but don't tell me that, I just bought a pair. My first pair of headphones (and only) were Grado SR80s, and after doing alot of research I decided on the Denon 2000s. They seem to offer alot of what the Grados don't have, namely bass. I've eqed a little bass in when listening on a computer, but I believe there's a reason the lower end Grados don't have much bass, it's because it begins to muddy up; they could give them more bass with minimal effort; and again, I believe that's because the bass dropoff is somewhat uneven, and I'd have to do alot of work to figure out exactly where it is. That or it could be that Itunes isn't so hot at eqing...
Anyways I've listened to the Denons a little, first on my phone, which is terrible, and then plugging it into an out on some computer speakers, which weren't any better, but right now all I have is a deeper appreciation for the Grados. Grados in general are even better with decent amping everyone says, and some people bash them for their aggressiveness, but it's the aggressiveness that makes them sound good on any source; I find that when the average person listens to a song, they're listening for things to pop out at them. Which is why I'm excited to hear that the Denons have aggressive highs and bass, because I won't be able to afford great amping for a long time. Just ordered the Fiio E10, which should ship in a month or so >l Whatever though, my computer out is decentish.
The only other thing I wanted to say is that the disparity between the first and last page of this thread is pretty large. It sounds like the OP simply found what he was looking for, because in the end music is very mental; I find that the more abstract and less definite our senses get, the more our mind has an impact. Which is one reason I laugh at all the guys arguing about how much an impact a cable or whatever will have on something. Even if it does, your mind is already such a huge variable that it's not as big a deal as alot of guys make it out to be. Anyways I'd be interested to see what amping you guys have that are hating on the 2000s. One of the bad things about aggressive highs is that they tend to make even level mids sound slightly recessed, which is what I think probably happens with these phones. And the lesser the quality and power of the amp, the more mids and bass are affected before the highs.
So this has gotten really off topic in a few places, but I'll do some serious listening on my computer and receiver tonight and see what I think about these babys. They will have to try hard to beat the SR80s, because I have fond memories of listening to the end of Mahler 2 and Shostakovich 7 on those, and as much as I might try, I'm not going to be able to put aside my love of hearing the power of those pieces in search of another sound signature, no matter how superior that signature may be. On a side note, I'm interested to see if the E10 is any better than listening to a computer -> coaxial -> sony receiver. I've also got an old Marantz 2230 I need to fix up, which is another reason I got the Denons; the Marantz may just tame any aggressiveness the Denons have in the highs.
edit: nvm
