[terry1109]

after a bit of conversation with peter regarding the new harmony series (the new flagship?), here are what i got:
1) sound signature
Signature is similar to HiFiman LE5 and somehow resembles Ear Sonics signature. Quite balanced sound with extreme resolution and somehow bright but not fatiguing.
2) crossover
3way. 4 bores.
3) estimate price
3000PLN (~€750) on pre-order (it's planned but not finial)
4) launch date
December2013 - January2014 
i hope the above info will help any head-fier's who are interested

anyway i wanna know the main differences between P and S ver for the pro330 and which one you guys prefer.
and anyone having durability problem with the silicon ciem?
it'll be great if there is any reply regarding the above questions
 

 

[shakur1996]

anyway i wanna know the main differences between P and S ver for the pro330 and which one you guys prefer.

and anyone having durability problem with the silicon ciem?

it'll be great if there is any reply regarding the above questions

 

There is an opinion that silicon CIEMs are more robust to breaks, they are more durable for damages. I can't tell you how it is with the durability of the drivers in the silicon shell (i will have my own pro210 within 2 weeks), but I guess there should be no major difference in comparison to acrylic CIEMs.

As regards P and S version, to my ears:

- S have a lot of hiss; P have just a slight amount of hiss;

- S have very fatiquing and harsh high; P have more smooth highs.

I were to choose I would take P version, but this is an issue of subjective preferences.

 

[terry1109]

thank you so much for your opinion
P does sound like a safer option (a more forgiving sound signature?)
what's ur comment on the pro210?
cause i haven't seen other people who posses pro210 yet
so your comment is very valuable for those potential buyers
 

 

[shakur1996]

In my opinion P is safer option although I must admit that on our local, Polish form there are people who have S version and really enjoy them (and they are not musicians or sound engineers).

When I was listening to pro210 I was looking for a CIEM similar to Ety ER4 i.e. the one which will have flat, quick sound. To my ears, pro210 seems to fulfill these requirements. Peter told me that: (i) pro330 is Westone/Earsonics style monitoring CIEM and pro210 is Etymotic style monitoring CIEM, (ii) pro330 are like pro210 on steroids, (iii) pro210 are very analytical and is the most detailing portraying CIEMs among Peter's CIEMs.
Simply, I liked more pro210 (than pro330p).

I do suggest that you discuss in detail with Peter - simply describe him what you are looking for, tell him which IEMs/headphones you enhoy mostly and I believer that Peter will be able to advise you which his CIEMs will suit you the most. He has a lot of knowledge and most importantly patience to the customers' questions

 

[terry1109]

the description for 210 as detailing portraying CIEMs totally attract my attention
any lack of extension on the high? cause such problem with my previous dual driver i owned (5pro)
so i am wondering would the same applies to 210
and i totally agree about peter, he is knowledgeable and patience to the customers
i asked him a ton of questions and he is still willing to answer them one by one, simply awesome~~

 

 

[shakur1996]

I can't remember exactly how the highs were in pro210, I think they were good, but I can't remember whether they just good or very good. I will know this once I stick my pro210 into my ears. Again, ask Peter about the highs in pro210

 

[Sinocelt]

When I was listening to pro210 I was looking for a CIEM similar to Ety ER4 i.e. the one which will have flat, quick sound. 

 
Hm. As much as I like the Etys, I don't hear them as being flat over the whole frequency range. I hear boosted highs and a low end that starts rolling off so early that even (male) voices are affected.

 

[tomscy2000]

  Hm. As much as I like the Etys, I don't hear them as being flat over the whole frequency range. I hear boosted highs and a low end that starts rolling off so early that even (male) voices are affected.

Your ears also don't work like normal peoples'... Etys disappear in your ears. (that's why I'm a little reluctant to send you the DS-11; it would be lost forever) What you need is a hollow CIEM shell of your ears, to show people that your second bend is where most people's round windows are...

 

[Shini44]

i want the Harmony!! Ordering Music Two first

 

[Sinocelt]

Your ears also don't work like normal peoples'... Etys disappear in your ears. (that's why I'm a little reluctant to send you the DS-11; it would be lost forever) What you need is a hollow CIEM shell of your ears, to show people that your second bend is where most people's round windows are...

 
I can get them pretty deep, yes. But then, shouldn't I hear more low end?

 

[tomscy2000]

  I can get them pretty deep, yes. But then, shouldn't I hear more low end?

Actually, I'm saying you're not getting them deep enough --- in that vein, you're not hearing less low end, but rather getting distracted by added treble resonance.

 

[Sinocelt]

  Actually, I'm saying you're not getting them deep enough --- in that vein, you're not hearing less low end, but rather getting distracted by added treble resonance.

 
I push them so deep I'm afraid to lose them forever!

 

[Mimouille]

I push them so deep I'm afraid to lose them forever!

Wait, you are putting them in your ears right?

 

[tomscy2000]

  i want the Harmony!! Ordering Music Two first

The Music Two will be good!

 

[Deviltooth]

 
The Music Two will be good!

I'm really curious about the Music Two.  Piotr took a fair amount of time tuning it so I imagine it's going to be very refined.  Alas, there's only so much IEM money to be spent so I'll hang back and wait for the flagship; it it trumps my Pro330 I don't think I'll be able to resist.