Gryphus0204
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Btw joker, does the GR07 need a amplifier? Would the sound be much different with a amp? And if so what would be a good and affordable potable amp
The cc51 seems like the perfect fit but alas im a poor college kid. my budget is only around $30. Thanks for the response joker, ill be sure to read the rest of your thread to further educate my decision in finding the perfect iem for my price range. Your thread is so wonderful and well done!
Btw joker, does the GR07 need a amplifier? Would the sound be much different with a amp? And if so what would be a good and affordable potable amp
I've had my ER4Ps for almost a decade now. They've served me well. But I've always wanted a little more bass. Back then, there were only a few options for us head-fiers. Now, it seems like there are more IEMs than headphones, and I don't know where to start.
So what I'm looking for is a IEM with mids and highs like the ER4P, but with detailed, high quality, rumbling bass like in the Denon D2000s. I also want them to be well detailed, and have the amazing instrument separation of the Etys. Soundstage isn't as important, but I wouldn't mind one with a deep stage. Budget is less than $600. Of course, less is always better. Thanks.
If you're willing to give up isolation, doesn't get much more Denon-like than a JVC FX700. Very deep and rumbly, but without sacrificing control. Huge increase in bass quantity over Etys without a drop in separation.
The Consonance is definitely bassier than the M2 but might be too v-shaped if you're after balance and smooth treble. From Fischer I'd go for the Eterna instead. I wouldn't say the treble of the TS02 is as smooth as M2, either, and the PR401 does have less bass. The ECCIs are definitely more balanced than the Consonance but still slightly mid-recessed. I can't think of anything in the price range that fits all of your requirements to a T but if you're willing to give up a bit of bass quantity (down the same level as PR401) the HiSound Crystal might work for you. If you're not willing to give up the bass, maybe one of the Xears (TD-III v.2 or N3i) would be a better choice. They have slightly have less treble emphasis than the Consonance/TS02/PR401 but still extend better than the M2.
I may be confusing output impedance 'damage' with 'turn on thump' - the 'pops and clicks' you refer to - apologies if that is the case.
If you're willing to give up isolation, doesn't get much more Denon-like than a JVC FX700. Very deep and rumbly, but without sacrificing control. Huge increase in bass quantity over Etys without a drop in separation.
beat me to it, even coming from a Denon D7000, the FX700 holds it's own
hands down
'high quality rumbling bass'
'well detailed, instrument sepation'
incredible timbre
Thank you for the reply, I need better soundstage than the Brainwavz M2. I don't need mids like as brainwavz M2 has. I need less mids but also not too much recessed mids; let say if we give 5 score to the M2's mids so I need 2.5 to 3 score in the newly earphone, more or same bass as M2 has which doesn't bleed into midrange and more extended treble than the Brainwavz M2 but in a smooth fashion. Instrument separation and imaging would be plus if I can get in my mentioned budget which is $60-$100.
Thank You.
I may be confusing output impedance 'damage' with 'turn on thump' - the 'pops and clicks' you refer to - apologies if that is the case.
I'm ready to upgrade to some seriously detailed IEMs. This is what I have in mind:
-JVC HA-FXT90
-JVC HA-FX 500
-Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10
What I'm looking for is the equivalent bass quantity of the CC51, but better texture (detailed). The speed of the bass has to be faster. The midrange has to be open and very detailed (moreso than the CC51). The treble has to be extended and sparkly (plus detailed and more than the CC51), but not overdoing it. The Soundstage has to have much better precision than the CC51 (Instrument Separation and Great Level of Submersion). The Clarity must be better than the CC51 (Sorry for the many CC51 Benchmark References). The Build Quality also has to be similar than the CC51 (maybe a tad bit stronger, but definitely stronger cable quality) Which one of those meet the requirements?
Thanks guys. Definitely going to check them out. Is Seyo Shop the only place that sells them? Any word on how much they are in Japan? Because I'm going to be there for a couple of weeks.
Then I would go for the Eterna.
I haven't heard the Able Planet, UM1, or M4. I think wanting bass qty on-par with the CC51 would rule out the Sonys, Etys, RE-ZEROs, and maybe even the SBA-03/A161. The need for sparkly treble rules out the SE215 and DDM v.1. The remaining three (FXT90, FX500, TF10) all fit your requirements and are about on-par from an SQ standpoint, with the FX500 being the brute that can sometimes get out of hand (especially at higher volumes) but rewards with an excellent presentation, timbre, and very good clarity. The TF10 and FXT90 are more straightforward - I'm sure you've read the reviews. I don't find the form factor of the TF10 to be as good as those of the JVCs but that's probably just me.