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My bad Axel, I do recall you saying that. So many people here, I forget who said what.
Very bad attention span, lol.
Very bad attention span, lol.
@PFG: Woah hey thanks, should've checked the computer audio section har har. (Rather... either I missed it, or your guide isn't in the Wiki... All I see is the foobar one) couple things though.
No clue what that 3D rapture thing is so I'll research on that later. 2nd, there's more than one version of DiRT 2?
And once I invest in a X-Fi Titanium HD I'll just test it myself between CMSS3D-Headphone and Dolby Headphone but I'm gonna elaborate on that more further down this post.
In any case I'll start clean again.
You know... I think the reason why I was so confused was because I treated the manuals of the A40/Mixamp like the bible. With the "good, better, best" thing and all that.
So to clear this up I think the easiest way (for me anyway) to see if I got this right or not is to have this explained through a format. Heck I bet you could copy and paste this on to your guide Nameless. And if I got something wrong, anyone is welcome to edit it and repost it with the modifications.
I just have decent enough deduction skills to get by. So here's what I've interpreted so far. though I'm only gonna list the ones I see myself end up using. I suppose with this list people can expand upon it.
Though you know it seems like your guide covers and helps with understanding connectivity as well. I suppose this still is a convenient quick "lazy man's" guideline to connections har har. That and I have OCD to some extent so laying it out like this would calm my nerves =P
In my case this would be for a Q701 or pretty much a stereo headphone.
Your Headphones connected w/
1. Soundcard on the PC (ie X-Fi Titanium HD)
TRS 3.5mm is recommended for best results in , movies, musics and games etc. CMSS3D-Headphone works fully?
So long as the soundcard supports dolby etc.
Doesn't matter if it's a 3.5mm etc right? Cause the audio already contains the info. That Dolby video by MLE proves
this, just using apple in ear phones and can tell =P
+Mixamp : Toslink redundant? Seems like PFG's guide confirms about analog circuit bypassing, so this might
actually have some use =P
2. Console
+Mixamp : Toslink self explanatory lol. Astro already provides instructions about this. Or for that matter I think it's
I think that covered everything, hopefully I interpreted it right... Not really impressive as a layout guide. Looked prettier in my head lol.
@namelessFPG
I saw the guide but it does a job of explaining the diffrent technologies and such . . and i'm looking for some pointers about the settings . . i have to say i'm pretty shocked . . i thought with a subject with almost 400 pages of discussions i would get hundreds of presets people use . . so far i'm very dissapointed with the Dolby features . . makes everything sound wierd (pushing low ends too much) and no logical cue positioning. and if i disable the dolby feature it sounds like an onboard soundcard . . i mean i dont regret getting the headphones . . they are the sweetest purchase i made in a long time but the card . . if people actually tell me to turn off the feature that i actually bought the card to get . . well that's just sad.
I wouldn't say Toslink to a mixamp is redundant out of the X-Fi HD. You'll get DH from the DD output over a toslink cable. It will give you a different sound than using the surround processing that comes with the card natively. It would depend on which you prefer. I've played with Creative's hardware and I wasn't impressed with their quality, but the DH from my mixamp works for me. But then you have Nameless, who loves the CMSS3D processing. Everyone has different tastes. So if you have the mixamp, play with it and see then go with the setup that sounds best to you.
Can anyone put up some footage of MW3 with and without digital surround?
I wrote a PC gaming audio guide, but I only have so many sound cards and so much money to buy sound cards with for the sole purpose of reviewing.
Needless to say, I can't write something tailored to every sound card in existence right now. Most of my knowledge is concentrated on X-Fi cards, not anything with a C-Media chip or even those Recon3D cards with the Sound Core3D DSP.
And as far as CMSS-3D Headphone vs. Dolby Headphone is concerned, I prefer the former just because DH can't use the 3D positional information DirectSound3D and OpenAL games offer to provide proper binaural sound with height cues instead of virtual 7.1, but it does seem to skew the sound signature more. (Rapture3D's implementation may be even better than both for all I know, but I can't get the DiRT 2 "Game" version to switch to headphone mode to test it out with, and I don't want to pay up for the "User" version just to find out that it suffers from the same problem.)
Competitive gamer just getting into high end headphones/sets, bought a used and very old pair of DT770 professional 80ohms and ran them through my Auzentech X-fi Forte. Personally I found that for some reason they weren't especially clear or transparent, I'm not sure what it was but they were kinda murky-ish. I thought the Forte amp could drive them but maybe not (the volume is way loud enough from the Forte though). That said the positioning on them is fantastic! I think the problem is that they are really old. I got fed up with them looking so old and ugly, and thats colouring my judgement of the sound, which is crazy but whatever - and which is why i'm now in this thread!
ANYWHOO, I decided to 'upgrade' to something that would pick up details and sound more clear in my games, without losing any directional/positional accuracy (and also look decent!). I read through the first post as well as the AVS forum post by MLE (awesome person) and think that the K701 and HD598 would be just what i'm looking for, but they are out of my budget. DT880 and 990 are also kinda too expensive.
I can get new PC360s for £80, or I can get burned in K601s for the same price. Is the K601 as good as the K701? I would only run them through my X-fi Forte sound card. Which one sounds better for my needs? An attached mic and the volume control etc on the PC360s is attractive, but I read in many places that the PC360s sound muffled and not clear? Im not sure if thats true but it would ruin my day. Another possibility is HD555/558 (modded to the 595/598) and to be honest I'm just confused. Actually I would go for the PC360s but some dude said the HD555/595 is actually clearer and not the same and its pissing me off.
Basically I'm after something that sounds fantastic in games for a decent price (under £100 or thereabouts) and it doesnt have to be new! Ebay is fine. Bass is good but i dont want it drowning out clarity, but also bear in mind that i can equalise the sound on my sound card so... yeah. Positioning should be comparable to the DT770s. Most important is I want to be blown away... but that seems like a bit too much to ask
Thanks! Also I dont care about music in this purchase at all - these are dedicated gaming beasts, with maybe a bit of movies but meh.
Edit: Mainly play MW3 on PC at a high level. Prior to the DT770s footsteps were all but unhearable, but with the DT770s I can hear them like a wallhack even with other stuff going on - thats one thing i dont want to change!
The DT770 Pro 80 sounded murky to me with games that had anything resembling some ambient bass. I haven't used them in ages, but I'd guess that in Mass Effect 3, being on the Normandy would be quite muddy sounding on the 770/80s.